D&D 5E Arguing, ideating and solution-seeking on the D&D Enworld forum

[Umbran]

Where there is a matter at hand where establishing an issue is at least part of the point.

Do you mean establishing that an issue is, like, an actual issue. Establishing that we both agree that a stated thing is a problem?

 

[Thomas Shey]

Do you mean establishing that an issue is, like, an actual issue. Establishing that we both agree that a stated thing is a problem?

Or at least some general consensus it is, even one of us as an individual does not agree.

 

[Umbran]

Or at least some general consensus it is, even one of us as an individual does not agree.

This feels like a bit of an edge case, though. How often do we actually have to come to an agreement or consensus?

Maybe more tellingly, given the amount of argument we have - how often does argument generate consensus? Is argument really a good way to bring folks into general consensus? Or wouldn't some other approach be more persuasive?

 

[Oofta]

Are we now at the point where we're arguing about what arguing is?

 

[MGibster]

Are we now at the point where we're arguing about what arguing is?

We're through the looking glass, people.

 

[DarkMantle]

From the Orcs and Drow poll, is anybody else getting the impression that all of the arguing has not moved the needle at all whatsoever? Or am I misreading the whole issue?

 

[BookTenTiger]

From the Orcs and Drow poll, is anybody else getting the impression that all of the arguing has not moved the needle at all whatsoever? Or am I misreading the whole issue?

It's nearly impossible to actually change someone's mind online. I think that's why I try to stay away from "arguing" as much as possible.

 

[Oofta]

From the Orcs and Drow poll, is anybody else getting the impression that all of the arguing has not moved the needle at all whatsoever? Or am I misreading the whole issue?

Some people don't think the needle needs to be moved, some think that if you don't move the needle that it means you are morally bankrupt, others ask "what needle".

 

[DarkMantle]

Some people don't think the needle needs to be moved, some think that if you don't move the needle that it means you are morally bankrupt, others ask "what needle".

Ya so between all those different positions, I was thinking along the lines of inefficiency, or cost-benefit analysis. The cost seems high (all that arguing, time and energy). The benefits seems negligible.

 

[jmartkdr2]

From the Orcs and Drow poll, is anybody else getting the impression that all of the arguing has not moved the needle at all whatsoever? Or am I misreading the whole issue?

There were a lot of people who didn't know what the issue was, and learned via forum posts. Maybe here, maybe elsewhere.

There are probably a couple people who actually changed their mind. Not more than several, I would guess, but not likely zero either.

And there were a few people who were really vocal about telling everyone else racism isn't a thing, and they have largely been ostracized, which I would say is to the benefit of the community.