D&D and the rising pandemic

[Guest 7034872]

It's kind of funny, but the BBC has definitely had agendas too.

Yeah, I know, and I've noticed those agendas becoming more ardent in recent years. It's just a matter of degrees for me: Fox, MSNBC, et al spend way too much energy ridiculing those with the temerity and bad taste to disagree with them about something; BBC reporters, on the other hand, routinely go after any and all interviewees with tough questions and rebuttals in the form of, "Well, sure, but many of your critics have said..." There is intellectual honor in that.

 

[Umbran]

BBC reporters, on the other hand, routinely go after any and all interviewees with tough questions and rebuttals in the form of, "Well, sure, but many of your critics have said..." There is intellectual honor in that.

There is no honor in it if the critics are numbskulls.

 

[Umbran]

I don’t know why they freak her out more than the grocery stores and other places she HAS gone into.

In a grocery store, your contact with most of the people is momentary, in passing. In a restaurant, you are sitting still near people breathing their lung contents around you for on order of an hour. The assessments I have seen were pretty clear that a restaurant presents more risk than a grocery store for that reason, and a few other matters of ventilation.

 

[Guest 7034872]

There is no honor in it if the critics are numbskulls.

Sure, so I suppose another virtue in the BBC is they tend not to interview or cite the numbskulls.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

In a grocery store, your contact with most of the people is momentary, in passing. In a restaurant, you are sitting still near people breathing their lung contents around you for on order of an hour. The assessments I have seen were pretty clear that a restaurant presents more risk than a grocery store for that reason, and a few other matters of ventilation.

True, and as a medical family, we all know this is true on average.

But Mom is extremely extroverted, and a trip to the grocery that I might complete in 20-30 minutes turns into a 60-90 minute trip with her as she socializes with staff and other customers. Last week, she struck up a convo with a sharp-dressed man and his wife to discuss fashion, insisting I give him a couple of pointers (shoes & hats). That alone took 15 minutes.

EDIT: Additional into- we’ve been to two unmasked public events. One was a celebratory late brunch at a country club (6 attendees, all vaxxed) and a 50th wedding anniversary celebration with a few dozen people (again, all vaxxed). Of course, being vaccinated is no guarantee, and we had no way of employees’ statuses, either. One would hope…

Yes, that’s still different from going to a restaurant, but Mom prefers to hit restaurants at off-peak hours anyway (as do I), which would minimize her risks.

 

[CapnZapp]

Eh, what?

Please don't talk yourself into believing you can't be infected while grocery shopping.

Everything indoors put you at risk, period.

It is MUCH MUCH MUCH safer to order your groceries for home delivery, full stop.

Or at least order online and just pick up the pre-packaged wares, and then get back out of the store or mall asap.

 

[Zardnaar]

Eh, what?

Please don't talk yourself into believing you can't be infected while grocery shopping.

Everything indoors put you at risk, period.

It is MUCH MUCH MUCH safer to order your groceries for home delivery, full stop.

Or at least order online and just pick up the pre-packaged wares, and then get back out of the store or mall asap.

There's a big delay on delivery here.

We go around 8am Sunday morning get in and gtfo.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Eh, what?

Please don't talk yourself into believing you can't be infected while grocery shopping.

Everything indoors put you at risk, period.

It is MUCH MUCH MUCH safer to order your groceries for home delivery, full stop.

Or at least order online and just pick up the pre-packaged wares, and then get back out of the store or mall asap.

You are, however, stuck with two problems there (and I did one or the other of the two you mention for onto two years):

1. Items being missing and the substitutions that the shopper finds are really not what you want;
2. Things you don't think of when making the order but think of when you walk by them.

Its reached the point where while staying well masked, vaccinated, and boosted I'm willing to take the chance to avoid the pretty regular irritation and extra costs associated with those. On the other hand, unlike the prior poster's mother, I get in and get the hell out.

 

[Umbran]

Eh, what?

Please don't talk yourself into believing you can't be infected while grocery shopping.

Please don't talk yourself into believing that anyone said anything of the kind.

We can compare risks, and say one action is less risky than another, without saying that either one is without risk.

 

[Cadence]

.Started using DW (German), and France 24 along with BBC.

BBC world service on satellite radio and skimming the Google News aggregator for me. If nothing else, the BBC headlines from around the world are eye opening and I live their science and history programs.