D&D 5E Is 5E Special

[UngeheuerLich]

Apart from the lack of full-round actions, and attacks of opportunity being merged with immediate actions, the action economy of 5e is exactly the same as 3.5 but with much more confusing terminology.

Yes. But with all the "aparts" taken into consideration there is a big difference. You also forgot how much more natural moving works if you can move attack and move.

 

[Parmandur]

Well maybe Wizards should just make that D&D then. Why bother paying people to write rules?

As I said, there is a happy median, a Golden Mean, to beachieved. I would hazard that 5E comes very close to that Golden Mean.

 

[Parmandur]

Giving clicks to someone like that is not "research".

The information is out there, feel free to look into it or not.

 

[glass]

Yes. But with all the "aparts" taken into consideration tgere is a big difference. You also forgot how much more natural moving works if you can move attack and move.

I disagree that the "aparts" I had listed add up to anything more than a trivial difference (certainly less significant than the obfuscated terminology). OTOH, you are correct that I had forgotten about the movement splitting - that is more significant but I consider it to be significantly worse.

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[Parmandur]

I disagree that the "aparts" I had listed add up to anything more than a trivial difference (certainly less significant than the obfuscated terminology). OTOH, you are correct that I had forgotten about the movement splitting - that is more significant but I consider it to be significantly worse.

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glass.

The 5E action economy is explained quite clearly. It isn't all that different from 3E, no, but that's well and good.

 

[Minigiant]

I don't think some of you got what I meant.

The new players Isaw wanted to do stuff outside of FR/GH fantasy or saw 5e too barebones and boring. So they changed stuff. However since 5e doesn't really tell you the expectations, limits,and bounds of play... they ended up blowing up the game.

When some girl wants to RP a Megumin, Thor, Aquaman, or Deanerys Targaryen clone, nothing in the game tells them to say no because it would take hours of math testing to convert that.

 

[Haplo781]

The 5E action economy is explained quite clearly. It isn't all that different from 3E, no, but that's well and good.

"Game designers shouldn't worry about action economy." –Mike Mearls

 

[Parmandur]

I don't think some of you got what I meant.

The new players Isaw wanted to do stuff outside of FR/GH fantasy or saw 5e too barebones and boring. So they changed stuff. However since 5e doesn't really tell you the expectations, limits,and bounds of play... they ended up blowing up the game.

When some girl wants to RP a Megumin, Thor, Aquaman, or Deanerys Targaryen clone, nothing in the game tells them to say no because it would take hours of math testing to convert that.

I got what you said, but it doesn't correspond with my experience of the game or how people approach it. And those archetypes are nor hard to do, mostly they don't even need math.

Megumin = Evoker Wizard or Wild Mage Sorcerer, Thor = Tempest Cleric, Aquaman = a Champion Fighter with a swim speed and the ability to talk to fish (so a Race choice), and Deanarys Targaryan = basically anything she just has pet dragons.

 

[Parmandur]

"Game designers shouldn't worry about action economy." –Mike Mearls

It should be something that you can explain to an 8 hear old, for sure.

 

[Haplo781]

It should be something that you can explain to an 8 hear old, for sure.

I'm starting to get the impression you think anything that's too complicated for 8 year olds shouldn't be in the game.

Which I guess is a take.