What does all this have to do with She-Hulk, again?
Beats me. But she didn't exactly redeem herself either.Besides, how do you punish someone with the effective power of a god?
Close enough for government work. She essentially had her foot on the necks of thousands (?) of people for weeks or months. Giving up a fantasy and finally taking her foot off their necks isn't an act of redemption. If someone spent a few weeks torturing your children, would you consider that person redeemed simply because they stopped torturing them one day?Even if they were just her subconscious, are having hope lost, aspirations thwarted. and dreams crushed "losing nothing"?
Close enough for government work. She essentially had her foot on the necks of thousands (?) of people for weeks or months. Giving up a fantasy and finally taking her foot off their necks isn't an act of redemption. If someone spent a few weeks torturing your children, would you consider that person redeemed simply because they stopped torturing them one day?
She lost a fantasy. To me, that's pretty much losing nothing.I was arguing against the idea that she hadn't lost anything/given anything up. In another post to someone else I was questioning whether that counted as even starting a redemption arc. Did someone actually say they thought she was redeemed? (If so, I missed that post).
A solid, 3 dimensional, interactive fantasy that in every tangible way was otherwise real? If it feels like loss, it is loss.She lost a fantasy. To me, that's pretty much losing nothing.
Wanda is more of a return to sanity, than redemption, but that gets blown right out the window when the evil book twists her mind again.To clarify my position, Wanda absolutely did lose something, her family was real to her. So it was a personal sacrifice.
It’s just not redemption. Redemption requires penance…and that’s where it fails for Wanda. She stops the violence, that’s a good start, but she never does anything for the people she wronged.
Let’s contrast that with Bucky. He feels temendous quilt, he is going to individuals he’s wronged and trying some reconciliation, he’s continued fighting is in part to make up for the wrongs he’s caused. That’s how you start a redemption arc.
That's stretching it imo, the next three pages will then be a rehash of how Wanda was treated or mistreated by MoM instead of talking about the actual topic.She-Hulk show is setting She-Hulk to be in some movies. Having folks need to watch the shows to understand the movies is a change, consider Wanda in last Dr. Strange. Spiral to where we are now.
Threads wander, it is the way of things. I have spoken.That's stretching it imo, the next three pages will then be a rehash of how Wanda was treated or mistreated by MoM instead of talking about the actual topic.