D&D 5E Have You Started Planning How You Will End 5e Yet?

[UngeheuerLich]

No, I don't like the direction of the changes. The feedback is 80%+ positive because those of us who don't like it have already checked out of the discussion.

I won't be buying any of the new books. One of my players probably will because he buys everything, but other than that, I don't expect most of them will go out and buy new PHBs.

So a good decision not to design for those of you?
Or maybe you are the majority and it is a terrible decision. But I have the feeling, that a cleaned up version of 5e can be sustainable for a few more years. Killing it now would be the worst mistake they could make.
That would ruin the impact of baldur's gate 3 when it finally got out. A bit how baldur's gate 1 and 2 was somwhow badly timed, as you play a great dnd game and a few month later, the rules have completely changed...

 

[TwoSix]

I think we'll gather the whole family together, talk about all the fond memories we shared, tell 5e how much we love it, and then wait for 5e to peacefully expire after we turn the machines off.

 

[Ancalagon]

My Drakkenheim campaign (look up dungeons of drakkenheim, I highly recommend it!) has at least a year left in it, so I'm definitely waiting until that is finished at the least.

After that... I don't know, we'll see!

 

[J-H]

So a good devision not to design for those of you?
Or maybe you are the majority and it is a terrible decision. But I have the feeling, that a cleaned up version of 5e can be sustainable for a few more years. Killing it now would be the worst mistake they could do.
That would ruin the impact of baldur's gate 3 when it finally got out. A bit how baldur's gate 1 and 2 was somwhow badly timed, as you play a great dnd game and a few month later, the rules have completely changed...

That's the multi-million dollar question for WOTC/Hasbro... will the market support the new edition, or will most people who have already bought 5e (10M+?) do 5 minutes of research, go "meh" and not spend the money?

If so, there's a risk that they will double down on the mistake by making moves to shut down 5e as we currently have it by forcing changes through D&D Beyond and other channels, making people go from apathetic to upset.

It's already been annoying to have to deal with "No, select the Legacy Goliath option on D&D Beyond, not the Mordenkainen's version" with some of my players. Adding "Also don't pick the 5.5e version" and potentially having some people with/without different versions makes it worse. Do the original Cleric features get shoved into a "Optional Class Features" sub-tab?

They have walked themselves into the middle of a waist-high mud puddle. No matter what they do, it's going to be messy.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

That's the multi-million dollar question for WOTC/Hasbro... will the market support the new edition, or will most people who have already bought 5e (10M+?) do 5 minutes of research, go "meh" and not spend the money?

If so, there's a risk that they will double down on the mistake by making moves to shut down 5e as we currently have it by forcing changes through D&D Beyond and other channels, making people go from apathetic to upset.

It's already been annoying to have to deal with "No, select the Legacy Goliath option on D&D Beyond, not the Mordenkainen's version" with some of my players. Adding "Also don't pick the 5.5e version" and potentially having some people with/without different versions makes it worse. Do the original Cleric features get shoved into a "Optional Class Features" sub-tab?

They have walked themselves into the middle of a waist-high mud puddle. No matter what they do, it's going to be messy.

And if they didn't, it would be the same. At some point you need to refocus the game. Reduce the clutter. Fix the holes and.
At some point it is just damned if you do, damned if you don't.
So you need to make the best of it.

And on top, it is the 50th birthday. When is a better time to rerelease it?

 

[Micah Sweet]

And if they didn't, it would be the same. At some point you need to refocus the game. Reduce the clutter. Fix the holes and.
At some point it is just damned if you do, damned if you don't.
So you need to make the best of it.

And on top, it is the 50th birthday. When is a better time to rerelease it?

The 50th anniversary would be a GREAT time for a new version of D&D, designed to appeal to the people they want to give them money and including a setting that expresses the values of 2022 that are all-important in salable media nowadays. What we're getting is weak tea, a half-measure that barely moves the innovation needle, and is inoffensive enough that most folks will still sign on. At the same time, enough has changed that fans of 5e as it is and previous editions may drop off the bandwagon altogether, which WotC is fine with since they're officially too small a demographic to matter now.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

We'll just keep going with whatever we're playing at the time. If players want to rebuild their characters using '24 book rules, that'll be fine with everyone. If they don't, that'll be fine too. Whoever's DMing at the time can pick what they do from their side of the screen. (So to speak - none of us use screens).

 

[UngeheuerLich]

The 50th anniversary would be a GREAT time for a new version of D&D, designed to appeal to the people they want to give them money and including a setting that expresses the values of 2022 that are all-important in salable media nowadays. What we're getting is weak tea, a half-measure that barely moves the innovation needle, and is inoffensive enough that most folks will still sign on. At the same time, enough has changed that fans of 5e as it is and previous editions may drop off the bandwagon altogether, which WotC is fine with since they're officially too small a demographic to matter now.

No, you are mistaken. You might think of 6e, some people speak about. That is not what they are giving us though.

 

[Mannahnin]

My Drakkenheim campaign (look up dungeons of drakkenheim, I highly recommend it!) has at least a year left in it, so I'm definitely waiting until that is finished at the least.

After that... I don't know, we'll see!

I started playing in a Drakkenheim game pretty recently. Enjoying it so far.

 

[jgsugden]

I don't let edition dictate story to me. I run what I run, and when the dition page turns, I turn with it and just adapt the game. Usually I insert a superficial story element to explain any changes (from 3E to 4E a player made a Wish, and it had unexpected consequences), but I do not plan my campaign storylines around the real world edition changes.