Scribe
Legend
Oh, then I misunderstood you, and yes I agree it integrates fine, and I'm sure 5.5 or whatever will as well.
D&D 5E Have You Started Planning How You Will End 5e Yet?
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Warpiglet-7
Cry havoc! And let slip the pigs of war!
For real.I thought I would have a rogue comet impact the greater Seattle area.
The serious answer is that I don't plan endings as it is fully dependent on how much the group and I like what comes next. We played 3.5 all the way through 4e and into 2019 before 5e had enough product for us to make the switch. 3 years later we still debate whether the next campaign is going back to 3e or sticking with 5e.
We played 1e through 1999 when I had to play - half orc Paladin in 3.0.
(Skipped 2e entirely)
Skipped 3.5. ONE SESSION of 4e….so skipped it too.
We are pretty happy with 5e…5.5 will have to be pretty darn great to cause a switch.
I don’t have to be in the cult of the new if I am having fun. And with what is happening with art direction and lore I am thinking my group will stick with 5e.
We all play and DM and have lots of books…you never know. But more likely is stealing some new stuff and dropping it into 5e (feats at one, a few fixes whatever)
Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
Right there with you. The only real utility I'm going to get out of the new edition is bits and pieces for my homebrew.
Warpiglet-7
Cry havoc! And let slip the pigs of war!
It’s all fine.
I am going to try and not dim the fun others get. People get charged up for new stuff and like new toys.
I think my group of professionals with kids probably does not play as much as some and are not trying to break things so our books have plenty of possibilities.
I toyed with going back to 1e or OSRIC but we like the new toys and flexibility.
Hey, maybe 5.5 will have some cool stuff to steal! I can live with that. I could still find good conversations and play with folks who play 5.5 so won’t feel alienated.
Jack Daniel
dice-universe.blogspot.com
I've been living in a DIY/OSR world for so long now that it never even crossed my mind that the impending EOSL for 5.0 means anything. When you're used to not having official support, the lack of it isn't something you notice.
But, yeah, I might throw a party. Run some OD&D, drink some whiskey and porter, ritualistically burn some 5e character sheets in the fireplace. So, a regular game night in other words.
But, yeah, I might throw a party. Run some OD&D, drink some whiskey and porter, ritualistically burn some 5e character sheets in the fireplace. So, a regular game night in other words.
UngeheuerLich
Legend
We won't end it. It will just be continued, most probably transitioning softly into 5.5
MNblockhead
A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
I'll probably stop playing 5e when I die, or to be less dramatic maybe when I retire I'll move to something else. I just don't have the time and inclination to learn a new system.
The the new books that are coming out wouldn't be dumping 5e in my mind if I buy them. As long as I can still run my existing adventures from WotC and TPPs, I'm still playing the same game. My next campaign may go 100% with the new books or may still with the current core books with cherry picked changes from the new books.
For each campaign, I select a mix of home rules based on optional variant rules in the core books, from TPPs, and home brew to fit the setting. So, by the logic of many of the posts arguing that 1 D&D = 5.5/6e, then I'm playing a new edition with every campaign.
As long as I don't have to learn and entirely new system from scratch, I'll likely buy the new books. I've liked most of what I've seen so far. But I'm not going to render my small library of adventure material useless by moving to a new system that I can't use with them.
The the new books that are coming out wouldn't be dumping 5e in my mind if I buy them. As long as I can still run my existing adventures from WotC and TPPs, I'm still playing the same game. My next campaign may go 100% with the new books or may still with the current core books with cherry picked changes from the new books.
For each campaign, I select a mix of home rules based on optional variant rules in the core books, from TPPs, and home brew to fit the setting. So, by the logic of many of the posts arguing that 1 D&D = 5.5/6e, then I'm playing a new edition with every campaign.
As long as I don't have to learn and entirely new system from scratch, I'll likely buy the new books. I've liked most of what I've seen so far. But I'm not going to render my small library of adventure material useless by moving to a new system that I can't use with them.
Ancalagon
Dusty Dragon
I'm not sure how well that would work - the subclass features don't show u p at the same level in the old vs the new phb.
doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
It works fine, right now, in practice.
Like…you just gain subclass features in order, using the levels stated in the base class you are using.
The only ruling needed is to give the Bard something at the last subclass level if using new bard with older subclass. Obvious choice is bonus feat.
TheSword
Legend
We started making those changes as the playtest packages are released. Pretty much everything I’ve seen so far is an improvement. Why would we keep playing with a broken Sharpshooter, or Great Weapon Mastery when we can just adjust. There is nothing in the new playtest that makes me think the adventures won’t just convert straight across.
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Retros_x
Explorer
That was never the intention with one DnD. They don't want to cannibalize their own product, because 5e is still selling pretty good.
To the question: I never plan things like that. After each campaign I will evaluate with my current players what systems are out there, what do we want to use. By my experience the DM, me, is more willing to experiment with new systems, the players most of the time don't want to learn new systems. One DnD I think I can sell to them, because its just a fresh painting for 5e. But the system is not too important for me anyway, so I am fine with continuing with that.
Clint_L
Hero
What makes something a "better" game, though? That is always going to be a subjective question. Yeah, they could throw everything out to work on making a better game for you, but that might make it a worse game for me. In fact, that is pretty much exactly what they did to their base when they went from 3rd to 4th edition.
Honestly, put yourself in their shoes. You've finally got a version of the game that has been met with widespread acclaim and extraordinary sales. Are you really going to throw that out in hopes of making something totally different and maybe "better"? For what? To please a few disgruntled fans? That would be crazy. You will always have a few disgruntled fans.
So they are going to stick with what is working and just tinker a bit, leaving the door open to future tinkering. Some of the changes just reflect changes to the culture at large ("race" becoming species; alignment becoming more optional). Others reflect adjustments to problems that have only become apparent over time (rebalancing a few feats to make them more evenly competitive). Others seem like corrections to earlier oversights (spiritual hammer becoming a concentration spell). Others reflect design choices that have become more comfortable over time (feats going from optional to more integral). Others are intended to improve consistency and simplify the game (all subclasses begin at level 3). And so on.
Taken together, I agree that none of these are revolutionary proposals, but they do represent an attempt to evolve the game in a positive direction. And that's all I want. Like many, I am satisfied with the 5e chassis. It feels like the D&D I played in 1979, but with more consistency and clarity. Keeping 5e but not freezing it, so that it can slowly change with the times rather than in a series of jarring edition jumps, makes sense.
WotC has chosen the metaphor of evolution for what they are trying to do with OneD&D. I think that is a great metaphor, because in evolution, there isn't a sudden, complete transition from one species into another, there is just incremental change over time with no clear dividing line. Decades hence, D&D might look quite different from what it is today, but there won't have been a specific moment where all your old books became obsolete. The scope of the changes will just be apparent when you, say, hold up your 2014 PHB next to your 2064 PHB.
To make that happen, they will have to disappoint folks who look forward to getting a whole new edition at once, like in the old days. They are okay with that. So am I.
Zardnaar
Legend
Well it's either a .5 edition or really expensive errata.
Kinda pointless either way.
Zardnaar
Legend
They're essentially charging you for errata.
Clint_L
Hero
Except, nope, they aren't. Because you don't have to buy the new books. That's the whole point: they expressly don't want this to feel like a new edition where you are obligated to either replace all your existing stuff, or quit. If you want the "errata," as you call it, and you want it all in one volume rather than just grabbing it off their free notes and what people put on the internet, then you can choose to buy a new PHB. Or not. The game will still work.
Was Tasha's just charging you for errata? Was Monsters of the Multiverse? Lots of folks chose not to buy them, and the game still works.
I know I haven't been the most supportive of OneD&D on here, but I think I got good value out of my 2014 book - 8 years (plus more to come) of play for around $30 (after discounts). That's not a bad run at all.
I've spent more on games I've never played.
Oofta
Legend
D&D is some of the cheapest entertainment per hour by far in my experience. Well, except when we were kids and just had dirt to play with of course.
Clint_L
Hero
Someone isn't heavily invested in Dwarven Forge...D&D is some of the cheapest entertainment per hour by far in my experience. Well, except when we were kids and just had dirt to play with of course.
Oofta
Legend
The first step in stopping an addiction is admitting you have a problem. Perhaps you should consider attending a DFA (Dwarven Forge Anonymous) meeting?
Besides it could be worse. You could be addicted to Warhammer miniatures.
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