D&D (2024) Martial vs Caster: Removing the "Magical Dependencies" of high level.

[Yaarel]

I like to believe that a warrior training allows them to tap into their own vitality. And as they level up, they absorb energies latent in the air to be transform into their own vitality.

A warrior who has dealt with spells, ki, psionics, infusions, and the like has absorbed so much energy that they can break the barriers of their race.

Magical classes do not train their bodies enough to absorb energies.

If the idea is, the warriors frequent contact with environmental magic ends up as if obsorbsion of steroids, that would be fine.

But reference to ones own soul allows the warriors powers to be innate.

 

[Yaarel]

Done. Can we move on now?

Done? Really?

In your own words, how does Fighter magic happen?

 

[Incenjucar]

The "how" and its narrative are important to the D&D storytelling game, are mechanically necessary for the DM to adjudicate scenarios narratively, and define the tropes and themes of each setting, including a light suggestion for a default setting.

Example that isn't table dependent?

 

[Minigiant]

If the idea is, the warriors frequent contact with environmental magic ends up as if obsorbsion of steroids, that would be fine.

But reference to ones own soul allows the warriors powers to be innate.

The warrior's soul gets bigger because they survived a blue dragon's lightning breath and absorbed the lightning.

Now some of his attacks are lightning fast.

 

[Emberashh]

Ill point out again that every single Fighter subclass defines a source of power for their abilities.

That only leaves Action Surge, Second Wind, and Indomitable. And as a matter of fact, both Action Surge and Second Wind give their own internal sources for what they do.

That just leaves Indomitable as the only odd one out.

 

[Minigiant]

Arcane and Divine are "weave" magic.

Psionic mind magic and Ki magic are "soul" magic.

Possibly Ki = Martial magic.

Primal magic is probably "soul" magic, but in the sense that features of nature have souls.

Primal is weave magic. Nature taps into the Weave because the Weave is everywhere and the Primal Spirits and Nature Gods become one with it.

Psionic and Ki are soul as they are separated by the mind and body.

 

[Yaarel]

Example that isn't table dependent?

I agree, each table must be free to supply ones own setting, including how magic works.

For example, in my near-future setting, AI virtual reality = Feywild.

But the core books need to supply a default setting, including how magic works (such as the cosmic "weave" or the personal "soul"), including how Fighter magic works. The default assumption needs to be easily removable, but core must have it, because most players dont want to create their own setting, they want to enjoy a setting that authors have already put together.

The default setting needs to be flexible in itself (like Warlock and Paladin are adaptable for different purposes with different flavors even while being vivid). And it needs to be easy to reuse core rules for other settings, especially homebrew settings, but also other official settings.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The "how" is important to the novels, not the game, and they stopped making the novels.

It's an RPG. The how matters here just as much as it does in a novel, or why are you playing an RPG?

 

[Micah Sweet]

Done. Can we move on now?

Sure. What one are we using? The one @Chaosmancer proposed? Cool. Now we can use that to put together the class.

 

[Incenjucar]

It's an RPG. The how matters here just as much as it does in a novel, or why are you playing an RPG?

It's an RPG, not a scientific hypothesis about an alternate universe. Why matters if you're writing a story about the why, like the Time of Troubles, but otherwise it's usually irrelevant.