Unpopular opinions go here

[payn]

Counterpoint to your counterpoint: Fishmongers being de-platformed and driven out of various communities is why I can't get good gas station sushi.

Or so I say to myself while I am praying to the porcelain god.

5 min abs with all that heaving!

 

[Jd Smith1]

Counterpoint to my earlier post: bigots and hatemongers being deplatformed and driven out of various communities is an example of the marketplace of ideas working exactly as intended.

No, that is censorship. As the higher courts have recently ruled. Freedom of speech is exactly that.

It is going to be interesting to see the litigation that occurs on this topic in the coming years.

 

[Emberashh]

No, that is censorship. As the higher courts have recently ruled. Freedom of speech is exactly that.

It is going to be interesting to see the litigation that occurs on this topic in the coming years.

 

[Bedrockgames]

No, that is censorship. As the higher courts have recently ruled. Freedom of speech is exactly that.

It is going to be interesting to see the litigation that occurs on this topic in the coming years.

The bigger issue is most of the time people are being mislabeled as things they are not. And half the time people invoking terms like Nazi's ironically have low-grade to extreme Anti-Semitism (being seeing a lot of that on my social media feeds in recent days), and other bigotries of their own. A good metric is how much their rhetoric seems driven by cruelty rather than compassion and empathy (empathetic people dislike bigotry because they don't want anyone being dehumanized), some people just want an easy excuse to bully (whether their target deserves it or not). I don't mind a bigot being called a bigot. I do mind people abusing those kinds of terms to apply it to people are not that. And there is also the blatant lying, attacks on peoples characters, and the aforementioned attempts to ruin peoples lives, destroy their livelihood and, I would argue, drive them to suicide. There is also a lot of pressure to not allow people to decide these things for themselves (i.e. there is a lot of 'either you agree with about this, or you are one of them').

 

[Umbran]

Mod Note:
Folks, this is starting to look like a "cancel culture" argument.

Please remember that we have an inclusivity policy, and it will be enforced.

 

[Emberashh]

The bigger issue is most of the time people are being mislabeled as things they are not. And half the time people invoking terms like Nazi's ironically have low-grade to extreme Anti-Semitism (being seeing a lot of that on my social media feeds in recent days), and other bigotries of their own. A good metric is how much their rhetoric seems driven by cruelty rather than compassion and empathy (empathetic people dislike bigotry because they don't want anyone being dehumanized), some people just want an easy excuse to bully (whether their target deserves it or not). I don't mind a bigot being called a bigot. I do mind people abusing those kinds of terms to apply it to people are not that. And there is also the blatant lying, attacks on peoples characters, and the aforementioned attempts to ruin peoples lives, destroy their livelihood and, I would argue, drive them to suicide. There is also a lot of pressure to not allow people to decide these things for themselves (i.e. there is a lot of 'either you agree with about this, or you are one of them').

You're not wrong per say. I've observed some of what you're speaking to. (Particularly in America, an obsession with Punishment is pretty endemic to society as a whole, regardless of personal political leanings)

Issue is, you have to take care and recognize that many of the people doing this are just as likely to be bad actors as they are generally ignorant.

4chan has been baiting people into believing idiotic things for years, and they're quite good at it.

 

[Willie the Duck]

We have had this conversation before

You're right, and I should've remembered it. We're not covering new ground. Cheers.

 

[Bedrockgames]

Issue is, you have to take care and recognize that many of the people doing this are just as likely to be bad actors as they are generally ignorant.

I get that. I think most people engaging in it are well intentioned who have bought into some misguided ideas. But for me Anti-Semitism is a big red line and it bothers me that often times people purposing to be against racism or Nazis in particular, engage in posting that strikes me as Anti-Semitic (which is troubling and ironic because one of the defining features of Nazism was its violent anti-Semitism). Obviously my post above may have been in part sparked though by emotions of recent days (so if I was overly broad, I didn't mean to be)

 

[Thomas Shey]

That's the risk you take when you try to reconcile a bunch of different and often incompatible rating scales (thumbs up/down, 5 star scale, 4 star scale, letter grade, etc) into a single measure of "More Yay or Nay" that is the Tomatometer. I'd argue there's no real way for them to do better. Readers who are looking at Rotten Tomatoes just need to recognize that a higher Tomatometer rating means a greater number of positive reviews, not that they're necessarily more positive in their character (and vice versa).
Information literacy isn't just for the newspapers and news sites.

You could use the weighting you have when its there.

 

[Thomas Shey]

You have to put things into context. The tomoatoer is basically a generalization, which you should use as a starting point. Just because a film is "fresh" doesn't mean its going to work for everyone. I will say that good films, in a general executed sense, dont get slammed by meh reviews. With generalizations, there are of course, exceptions to the overall ratings.

But like everything, there can be a lot of sort of so-so films that are still worth your time; but if you see a score of 18% are you going to assume its so-so?

Basically, per se, I consider the RT ratings worse than useless; they're often outright deceptive in either direction.