Loki Season 2 Discussion - Spoilers

[Zaukrie]

What in the hell is Jonathan Majors trying to do as Victor Timely? This is the campiest, most distracting performance I have seen in any MCU property. His performances as alternate versions of the character haven't been good, but this is next level awful. Almost unwatchable, as in I don't know if I want to continuing watching the show while he is on it. It's like a high school drama student trying to do their version of a nerd Captain Kirk. What is he thinking? What is the director thinking?

The episode was, therefore, terrible. Story didn't make sense, and it was anchored in that performance. Even if Marvel didn't think the actor needed to be replaced for other reasons, this performance, which was filmed before any of that became public, should have shown him the door. The entire Kang/multiverse storyline needs to die in a fire. Go back to stories rooted in character arcs.

Marvel has lost the plot.

Couldn't disagree more.

 

[Older Beholder]

I like that we got a lot more of Miss Minutes this episode. She creates a really unsettling tone of cute/creepy that works well in the series.

I enjoyed her changing into a more time appropriate visual, and running amok as a giant ghost clock at the World Fair. But the shot of her superimposed over the face of a mannequin will go down for me as one of the more iconic images in a Marvel TV show since the zombie Vision reveal in WandaVision.

 

[Tonguez]

Is it weird that Miss Minutes is now the most interesting character in the show? lets have the MCU do a broad exploration of sentient AI (Miss Minutes, Vision, Jocasta, Friday, Ultron, Arnim Zola, LMDs)

 

[Paul Farquhar]

It's been pointed out before, Loki is basically a Doctor Who clone, and campy performances are a feature of Doctor Who. So I'm sure it's enterly intentional.

Here is hoping for a Brian Blessed cameo.

 

[MarkB]

Is it weird that Miss Minutes is now the most interesting character in the show? lets have the MCU do a broad exploration of sentient AI (Miss Minutes, Vision, Jocasta, Friday, Ultron, Arnim Zola, LMDs)

Not if they're going to take this approach. Seriously, "I want a real body so I can feel, and love, and get it on, or else I'm gonna sulk and turn EVIL" is pretty much the lowest-common-denominator, most cliched and outdated depiction of an AI ever, especially a female-presenting one.

 

[tomBitonti]

Not if they're going to take this approach. Seriously, "I want a real body so I can feel, and love, and get it on, or else I'm gonna sulk and turn EVIL" is pretty much the lowest-common-denominator, most cliched and outdated depiction of an AI ever, especially a female-presenting one.

The scene towards the end, which has Miss Minutes and Renslayer, seems to show that Miss Minutes might not have been truthful. She seems to have a deeper intent. At least to control He Who Remains.
TomB

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Not if they're going to take this approach. Seriously, "I want a real body so I can feel, and love, and get it on, or else I'm gonna sulk and turn EVIL" is pretty much the lowest-common-denominator, most cliched and outdated depiction of an AI ever, especially a female-presenting one.

You didn't watch Agents of Shield, did you? Or at least not seasons 3 and 4 with Aida?

 

[MarkB]

You didn't watch Agents of Shield, did you? Or at least not seasons 3 and 4 with Aida?

No, and if they managed to do something interesting with the concept, good for them. It's still been done to death.

 

[Ryujin]

You didn't watch Agents of Shield, did you? Or at least not seasons 3 and 4 with Aida?

I had dropped off around season 4 because I had a time conflict and no PVR. Glad that I went back and watched the whole thing when I got D+, though it did mess somewhat with Stark's, "You have reached the Life Model Decoy of Tony Stark" line in a movie. Not canon, I know, but they should have tried to maintain a little in the way of parallel stories.

 

[Morrus]

It's been pointed out before, Loki is basically a Doctor Who clone

It has time travel in it but I’m not seeing the similarity otherwise.