D&D General D&D Worth "23 Billion"?!?!

[FrogReaver]

In this thread. Hasbros not worth 23 billion.

One can do basic math but you woukd need to see the books but somewhere between 500-1.5 billion would be the ballpark figure.

After that it's just annual returns on investments to work out if buying D&D would make financial sense. And how much of a premium one would pay if you think it's future returns will go up.

Yep! Investment isn't magic! Anyone can do it.

 

[Zardnaar]

Yep! Investment isn't magic! Anyone can do it.

Theoretically yes. There's safer bets tgan D&D I woukd put my hypothetical hundreds of millions of dollars.
Future returns are to volatile in D&D for me personally to pay a premium for it.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

I see now the new edition of Hero Quest with new expansions should be making more money than the original edition. This should be a clue.

I guess they mean D&D as multimedia franchise, not only the TTRPGs.

 

[mamba]

IMO 20-30 times profit is too high for anything that doesn't have a clear path for potential exponential growth.

if you rather use 15 or so, I am not going to argue with that. 30 definitely requires a rather rosy outlook, I said that in an earlier post

 

[Maxperson]

not really, that means 3B is in the ballpark while 5 is too high (20 to 30 times profit, with profit being around 50% for D&D)

What do you mean by "not really?" 3B is a reasonable multiplier of the 100m to 150m that Forbes estimated for D&D sales. It seems like you're saying "not really" and then agreeing with me.

 

[Zardnaar]

What do you mean by "not really?" 3B is a reasonable multiplier of the 100m to 150m that Forbes estimated for D&D sales. It seems like you're saying "not really" and then agreeing with me.

Why are you using a multiplier that high?

That's revenue not profit either.

 

[Maxperson]

Why are you using a multiplier that high?

That's revenue not profit either.

You can use higher multiplier for proven brands, which D&D is. Still, 3B is probably high. 1B to 1.5B is probably close to true.

 

[Zardnaar]

You can use higher multiplier for proven brands, which D&D is. Still, 3B is probably high. 1B to 1.5B is probably close to true.

Well on 3 billion I would want returns in the range of 150-300 million PA.

D&D revenue is lower end if that.

Hence why I think 600-800 is probably more realistic. Without knowing the exact numbers though hard to say. 1 billion is plausible.

Hypothetically of course assuming I had the money, WotC wanted to sell it.

I don't see it going for 20-30 years of peak revenue.

 

[mamba]

What do you mean by "not really?" 3B is a reasonable multiplier of the 100m to 150m that Forbes estimated for D&D sales. It seems like you're saying "not really" and then agreeing with me.

I understood your post to be a reply to the one above it, in which case your “several times that” referred to the 3-5B estimate of that post, not the 100-150M number from yours.

If this was not a reply and all you meant is ‘it is worth more than its annual revenue’ then, sure, it obviously is….

 

[Maxperson]

I understood your post to be a reply to the one above it, in which case your “several times that” referred to the 3-5B estimate of that post, not the 100-150M number from yours.

If this was not a reply and all you meant is ‘it is worth more than its annual revenue’ then, sure, it obviously is….

When I reply to a post I quote it.