D&D (2024) So IS it a new edition?

[mamba]

Other games and books in publishing call that a "new edition."

D&D has never in its 50 year existence used the term edition the way book publishers do

 

[payn]

Not necessarily, Pathfinder did a remaster of their 2E which had a decent amount of changes, but I don't remember seeing this kind of discourse around that being a new edition and everyone referring to it as a remaster, as Paizo refers to it as well.

Traditionally, yes, that is what a new edition is. So, 3-3.5 not 3.5-4. Paizo seems intent on following the outlier that D&D set.

 

[Vaalingrade]

If I have to pick yes or no, then yes, but only if half editions are editions.

 

[mamba]

To me this is too early to call. If its just PHB, no I would say its not. But we still have the DMG and especially the MM to me could make a big difference. need to wait until we actually have the full set to make the judgment.

eh, the biggest change by far is the PHB. You could use the 2024 DMG and MM in your game with the players using the 2014 PHB and no one would notice a thing (unless they already are familiar with the 2014 monsters, then just say you adjusted them)

 

[OB1]

I see this as the same as a video game getting Remastered for an updated console. Same game, but updated to create a better user experience.

But also, I could care less if it's a new edition, revised edition, updated, remastered, 5.24, 5.5, 2024, or whatever anyone wants to call it. It's D&D 5e and I'll use it with all of the other 5e supplements (both WotC and Indie) that I own, and homebrew things that I've created over the last decade, which is all that matters to me.

 

[Distracted DM]

Not necessarily, Pathfinder did a remaster of their 2E which had a decent amount of changes, but I don't remember seeing this kind of discourse around that being a new edition and everyone referring to it as a remaster, as Paizo refers to it as well.

The trouble largely came up because WotC didn't want to commit to calling it something because a new edition poisons current book sales. They said it had a working title, OneD&D, but then they said it wouldn't have a new name because it's the same ruleset- but the designers kept calling it "the revised edition" on interviews.. but the only official thing to differentiate the rulebooks as per DnDBeyond is DnD5e2014 core books vs DnD5e2024 core books.

I think people are just not agreeing on what defines an edition... which seems like something arbitrary for the creator/publisher to set. Which, in that case, it is not. But we went on for far too long without that info, so there is discourse about it.

 

[Velderan]

Not necessarily, Pathfinder did a remaster of their 2E which had a decent amount of changes, but I don't remember seeing this kind of discourse around that being a new edition and everyone referring to it as a remaster, as Paizo refers to it as well.

Because Paizo called it something different right from the start, so fans didn't have a chance to argue "what should we call it?".

 

[mamba]

The trouble largely came up because WotC didn't want to commit to calling it something because a new edition poisons current book sales. l

they are calling it something, 5e, and they have done for quite some time

They said it had a working title, OneD&D

working title, yes, at no point was the end result not 5e however

 

[Osgood]

While I really tire of this discussion, I'm lucky enough to have a copy of the PH that my friend picked up from me at Gen Con. So far, while a few of the classes have some substantial updates here and there, I'd say the rules changes look fairly minor to me, a bit less than what they were in the last play tests. I'd call it less than the changes from 3.0 to 3.5 (though the next two core rule books could change my mind). But that's one person's opinion, and others may disagree (especially since people seem to love having these sorts of arguments).

 

[Sword of Spirit]

As D&D editions go, 2014 to 2024 is a bigger change than 3.0e to 3.5e, and on average a little less than 1e to 2e, but more in some areas.

I'd definitely call that a new edition.

And I find the arguments that it isn't a new edition because you can still use characters from the previous one completely unpersuasive. You could use 3.0 characters in 3.5 and 1e characters in 2e. (But just like 2014 to 2024, you really shouldn't.)

I mean I guess if someone wants to claim that 2e wasn't a different edition than 1e, by that metric 2024 isn't a new edition. But that's a really weird claim.