D&D 5E I feel like the surveys gaslit WotC about """"Backwards Compatibility""""

[mamba]

But that is basically how they operated the surveys: sparks joy or doesn't spark joy. And ultimately that led to what I would consider a stronger move forward.

you have a very different take of the playtest than me, I do not see it as having helped the game improve

 

[Yaarel]

With regard to 5e 2024 anniversary edition, it seems the designers wanted a consolidation of 5e developments across the decade. But Hasbro wanted an entirely new edition. It seems the surveys ended up somewhere in between.

 

[Parmandur]

you have a very different take of the playtest than me, I do not see it as having helped the game improve

It led to sustainable improvements, which are the best kind. They took some swings in the playtest, and kept what worked.

 

[mamba]

It led to sustainable improvements, which are the best kind. They took some swings in the playtest, and kept what worked.

the jury on that is very much still out, and I do not see the playtest as having made much of a difference with respect to improving the game either, the approach is too muddled to be much better than a coin toss. The one thing it does is identify hugely unpopular options, in case any were included (there weren't). Beyond that its parameters mostly result in stasis, not gradual improvements

 

[Yaarel]

It led to sustainable improvements, which are the best kind. They took some swings in the playtest, and kept what worked.

I think that is a fair statement.

The improvements in 2024 are incremental, but important and sustainable.

 

[Yaarel]

I am relieved to see the word "race" gone.

I love the background feat standardizing. It continues 2014 rules via settings like Theros, Strixhaven, Van Richten, but the 2024 standard is a bit less powerful. Many were complaining about 2014 level 1 being too deadly. Now 2024 level 1 is more survivable. (If someone wants lowest level to be deadly, it is possible to play one or more sessions at the "level 0" background before gaining levels in a class.)

I love the Orc being in the Players Handbook, rather than the "Half Orc". Species works well in concept, even when magical species.

I like how Humanoid species avoid alignment assumptions. Re Orc, the adrenaline conveys a biological flavor, without implying "evil" or anger management issues.

I prefer each setting do the heavy lifting for setting flavor.

There are improvements I still want to see (such as abilities balancing with each other and being generally clear). I appreciate the updates that did make the cut.

 

[Corinnguard]

Behold my power.

What kind of power I am beholding? Rolls an Arcana check.

 

[Micah Sweet]

What kind of power I am beholding? Rolls an Arcana check.

Political power. You need to roll a Culture check instead.

 

[Corinnguard]

Political power. You need to roll a Culture check instead.

Okay. I was assuming he meant an Arcana check because of the word, behold, as in Beholder.

 

[Imaro]

Do they want that? Has adoption of 5.5 over its predecessor been so enthusiastic that we can count on that opinion?

Do fans of 5e want a non 5e ttrpg as a replacement for 5e... is that the ask? Remember they can just stick with '14 and use resources from '24 if they want... with a total break into a 6e D&D.... neither adopting revisions wholesale or using parts of '24 is on the table for 5e D&D fans. How is that a better proposition for those who are fans of 5e?