Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds - Season 3 Viewing (Spoilers)

[Stalker0]

I enjoyed the "dnd dungeon" episode.

hehe the only thing that was ridiculously out of left field was the whole "effect than cause thing". Not that there couldn't be some crazy dimension where that was possible. But rather Spock after one little possible application of that, and considering all of them are still cause and effecting just fine (they are all walking and talking and breathing just like normal), and they don't take any effort to put their hand out to check for a walkway or search the room some more, or try to study the control panel that clearly does stuff.....nope none of that Spock is perfectly comfortable letting both Christine and La'an fall to their deaths based on the tiniest sliver of evidence.

I knew Spock was confident...but DAMN.

I also love how Spock was like "we all have to do this together"....but only Christine and La'an actually walk out, everyone else stays nice and safe on the platform. I thought that was funny.


But of course, the scene of the episode was the chief engineer doing that crazy over the top monologue. And you know she speaks a bit odd but its way more over the top than normal and your going "um what the heck is going on"....and then you find out she is doing it for the camera. That was hilarious.

 

[James Gasik]

Yeah I was getting both vibes of the Tesseract dungeon from Dragon Magazine (issue 17? 25? I think it was in Best of Dragon vol. 1) and of course, the Great Machine of the Krell from "Forbidden Planet".

I do wonder if that hourglass relic was a trap or actually did something...

With all the talk about the evolution of life and languages from different cultures being found in the prison? Palace? Temple? Research facility?, I was reminded of The Progenitors from TNG "The Chase" and The Preservers (TOS, "The Paradise Syndrome). An ur-civilization that came before everything else and a species that visits other worlds and takes native peoples to preserve their culture on other worlds.

Though lots of aliens have visited Earth pre-warp. Not including time travel shenanigans, we have Gary Seven's masters from TOS ("Assignment: Earth"), Pelia's people, and of course, Guinan (first revealed in TNG: "Time's Arrow").

 

[Ruin Explorer]

S3E4 - "Fine I guess". There was nothing terribly wrong with it apart from I feel like maybe Holodeck V 0.1 should have been a little clunkier and less fully-formed and also why aren't you people terrified of the computer? You own ship's computer basically tried to murder you... I guess that blindspot stays with Starfleet for decades or more! I will say my other objection, that Spock knew to say "Arch" to get out despite never having used one before was actually covered by the plot of the episode and indeed could be considered a clue, so that's cute (I mean, he's also the kind of guy who might have read the manual). Some fun performances but weirdly felt like no-one got much screen time and Anson Mount appeared to be having more fun than everyone else!

Ok most important thing in S3E5: Through the Lense [sic - as per Paramount on Prime anyway] of Time - they immediately forgot about the HIPAA nonsense as I had hoped.

With that out of the way I am enjoying this Star Trek-themed Mothership campaign! Seriously we've had one episode which wasn't (technically) space horror, because I would argue that the "Holodeck goes wrong" one was - albeit mild.

Gamble bro why'd you have to Redshirt yourself so hard with your "MY FIRST AWAY MISSION!!!" stuff and picking up a glowing object come on man you've been in space before!

Noooooo N'Jal sorry dude you had the right idea and I appreciated you switching to whatever it was that the universal translator could translate before running for it!

Hell yeah Gorn-Lady vs. The Ancient Adversary. Kick poor Gamble's ass!

Feel like Pelia knows a lot more about this than she's saying. But also loved "You need one for the camera?".

Yeah I coulda told you putting something like that in the pattern buffer was probably not a great plan.

Good episode/Mothership adventure.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

With all the talk about the evolution of life and languages from different cultures being found in the prison? Palace? Temple? Research facility?, I was reminded of The Progenitors from TNG "The Chase" and The Preservers (TOS, "The Paradise Syndrome). An ur-civilization that came before everything else and a species that visits other worlds and takes native peoples to preserve their culture on other worlds.

Yeah I was thinking about the Progenitors the whole time. Like, do maybe these scary guys predate them? And were the Gorn, who clearly know them, perhaps not the result of Progenitor meddling like all the humanoid races but their own evolutionary path (and also perhaps very, very ancient, which might explain their almost non-sapient behaviour).

I also love how Spock was like "we all have to do this together"....but only Christine and La'an actually walk out, everyone else stays nice and safe on the platform. I thought that was funny.

I thought "OK they do have some common sense!" - any adventuring party would have let 1-2 people take the initial risk lol.

 

[Rabulias]

In Kirk's era it's the five year mission, so they need to be able to operate for longer periods far from support, and have specialised staff to cover their wider mission profile (like they have a dedicated historian in Space Seed).

Pike's voiceover in the opening credits of SNW also says "5 year mission."

 

[Rabulias]

I wonder why they did not put Batel in the transporter pattern buffer to delay her Gornification?

 

[Ryujin]

I wonder why they did not put Batel in the transporter pattern buffer to delay her Gornification?

The transporter can solve virtually all of their problems, which is one thing you need to overlook if you want to enjoy the stories. For example why wouldn't they just run anyone infected through the transporter, using earlier DNA samples as a filter, to remove the Gorn embryos? Similar stuff has worked in other episodes.

 

[Stalker0]

Yeah I was thinking about the Progenitors the whole time. Like, do maybe these scary guys predate them? And were the Gorn, who clearly know them, perhaps not the result of Progenitor meddling like all the humanoid races but their own evolutionary path (and also perhaps very, very ancient, which might explain their almost non-sapient behaviour).

Yeah I like to think of it as....the "Progenitor" races evolved relatively quickly on galactic scales because they were designed to. Whereas truly naturally occuring sentient races like the gorn took many more million or maybe even a billion years to get to where they were. And perhaps why the Gorn are still driven so strongly by instinct and more primal behavior (like star light driven behaviors)....they have a lot more evolutionary baggage.

 

[MarkB]

Pike's voiceover in the opening credits of SNW also says "5 year mission."

And yet, in this season part of the reason for the holodeck testing was that they're pioneering ships being able to stay out for longer periods, meaning they're not there yet.

 

[Rabulias]

The transporter can solve virtually all of their problems, which is one thing you need to overlook if you want to enjoy the stories. For example why wouldn't they just run anyone infected through the transporter, using earlier DNA samples as a filter, to remove the Gorn embryos? Similar stuff has worked in other episodes.

Yes, as a Trek fan from way back, I and my friends have often pointed to uses of the transporter (or other technologies) in some episodes being solutions to problems in other episodes. We became resigned to seeing these inconsistencies and try to look beyond them (but it doesn't mean we don't still see them! ).