Thomas Shey
Legend
To be clear, I'm not hostile to them. They aren't probably supprting the kind of tactically rich and deep-delveable games I prefer, but neither are lots of other people in the hobby, so, so what?
What makes setting lore "actually matter" to the players?
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To be clear, I'm not hostile to them. They aren't probably supprting the kind of tactically rich and deep-delveable games I prefer, but neither are lots of other people in the hobby, so, so what?
Thomas Shey
Legend
Its more the kind of kind of repeated hand-wringing about it that gets a little odd, man. I mean, my taste in game design isn't exactly the dominant one any more (look at any thread about high versus low crunch) but I don't spend a lot of time bemoaning it, even though I'd probably struggle more than a little if I had to put together a new gaming group suiting my needs.
Bill Zebub
“It’s probably Matt Mercer’s fault.”
I just force my kids to play RPGs the way I like.
Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
Shadowdark feels great for the kind of old school game I enjoy, and it's fun to play and relatively easy to find players for, but I prefer ideally to marry that feel to some solid world-sim. My favorite games are A5e, ACKS II, DCC, the Without Number series, and converting AD&D 1e and 2e's lore to any or all of these. Anything that heavily involves worldbuilding mechanics and advice gets a vote from me, because that's my favorite part of the hobby. Regarding Shadowdark, I'm excited about the hexcrawl stuff that came out recently, and recently backed a Kickstarter adding supernatural western rules because no one wants to play Deadlands.
SableWyvern
Cruel Despot
I don't really know you, but you seem to me to be the sort of person who's able to recruit entirely new players into the hobby. It's what I do, and it ensures my preferences will exist in sufficient quantities that I can continue to run my games my way for as long as I wish.
Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
Well, I also really enjoy talking about things I like, and none of the games I enjoy the most have a large community unfortunately. And everyone in the hobby still talks about 5e and 5.5 way, way more than anything else.
Neonchameleon
Legend
OK. If this is only RP settings I'm citing WFRP as being better thematically than almost any Sci-Fi RPG I can think of with the possible exception of its space-fantasy spinoff.I am also not talking about novels
Two of those do not have ttrpg games. And while Discworld does, its far far from standard adventurer roleplay, so it does not apply to my conversation at all.
zarionofarabel
Hero
Do folks actually consider D&D to be simulationist games? I find that a weird one as the power levels of PCs definitely removes them from the realm of any coherent relation to anything found in reality. Or do I have the definition simulationist games wrong?
Bill Zebub
“It’s probably Matt Mercer’s fault.”
Except that so much of it is completely toxic. SO MUCH GRIPING. You'd think most of them would find a different game, one they actually like.
(I'm actually getting the first hints of that from newcomers in the Shadowdark Discord. Makes me sad.)
Thomas Shey
Legend
Oh, believe me, I get it; I'm a poster on a D&D-centric board who really doesn't want anything to do with D&D proper, even if I don't have the hate-on about it I did 40 years ago. Only reason I'm here, honestly, is the other places I've found that are broader the tone puts me seriously off, and some D&D-adjacent discussion still involves topics that have wider reach that I find interesting, and there's some broad discussion here (such as this thread, even if it does tend to lean into D&D just because of where we are).
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