D&D 5E List of All 33 Races in Mordenkainen's Monsters of the Multiverse

Frozen_Heart said:

Weird how everyone is fine with certain player species being 35 feet movement, but object to some being 25 foot movement.

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Maybe they should just set base movement to 25 feet. Then no one has a negative!
Instead of humans having 30 feet of movement they have "your base move increases by 5 feet".

Vaalingrade said:

People keep asking for a simple 5e, which has already been 70% 'DM may I'.

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I don't want a simple 5e. Literally a simpler game is the last thing I want. That's why I supported (and continue to support) Level Up.

It is weird how important hurting small races it to some people.

One advantage of giving every race a 30' movement speed is that it eliminates a line of text from every single race entry - which really adds up if you're going to have a lot of races in a book.

HammerMan said:

the thing is they are pushing it as far as they can to claim it isn't an edition change but not addressing everything to claim "backward compatibility"

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I fully expect to hear people both complain about it being a pointless cash grab that didn't make needed changes and that they were "lied to" about it being backwards compatible.

Vaalingrade said:

It is weird how important hurting small races it to some people.

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Serious question.

Since small and medium creatures take up the same space, have the same movement rate, there exists creature types that allow S or M, and there are humans IRL that would be small on the current D&D scale... why do we even have them separate? Is it really worth penalizing the S for using large weapons or letting the S slip by a L creature but not letting an M do the same?

guachi said:

Maybe they should just set base movement to 25 feet. Then no one has a negative!
Instead of humans having 30 feet of movement they have "your base move increases by 5 feet".

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Usain Bolt can do 100 meters in under 10 seconds (we break into rounds and most of us use ft so 2rounds is 12 seconds and that is about 330ft) and 200 meters in under 20 seconds (so that scales with above)

lets assume hero's should be able to come close, and ones that focus on physicality should be able to equal him or surpass by level 10.

30ft move + 30ft dash is 60ft in 6 seconds and 120ft in 12 (less than half that speed)
30ft move + 30ft dash + 30ft bonus action dash is 90ft in 6 seconds and 180ft in 12 (About half)

so I would say combat movement should default to between 50-80ft... having some way to use str con and dex or training in athletics to make that 30ft of difference...
50ft move + 50ft dash is 100ft in 6 seconds and 200ft in 12 (still not Bolt but closer)
80ft move + 80ft dash is 160ft in 6 seconds and 320ft in 12 (still not Bolt but almost)
50ft move + 50ft dash + 50ft bonus action dash is 150ft in 6 seconds and 300ft in 12 (About as close as the 80ft without bonus)
80ft move + 80ft dash + 80ft bonus action dash is 240ft in 6 seconds and 480ft in 12 (not the flash but you would be the fastest man in real world)

30ft isn't a realistic or a 'verisimilitude' number it is an ease of play rule

Just for fun I made up a fake rule (not sure I would use it) where your speed is equal to 30 + the (highest mod of your str dex or con)x5
so if you have a 14 as your highest physical stat it is 40ft if you get a 20 stat it is 55ft but training in athletics lets you add your prof (so +2-+6) to your stat for the calculation adding 10ft-30ft... meaning the slowest you can be is 40ft and the fastest is 85ft without magic (if we allow expertise to include that would double prof to give up to +30ft so 115ft... lets do some math for fun)


115ft move + 115ft dash + 115ft bonus action dash is 345ft in 6 seconds and 690ft in 12 (About double world record) for a character going all out that is super specilized (prof and expertise and a 20 stat) in beinth athletic... it seems like if feels right they should be VERY far beyond our real world max by max prof (I still didn't look up if that is 18th level or 17th level)

Cadence said:

Serious question.

Since small and medium creatures take up the same space, have the same movement rate, there exists creature types that allow S or M, and there are humans IRL that would be small on the current D&D scale... why do we even have them separate? Is it really worth penalizing the S for using large weapons or letting the S slip by a L creature but not letting an M do the same?

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No, there is no point anymore. And as species no longer have different heights and weights halflings can be six feet tall.

I really don’t like this. I want the size to matter more, not less.

Twiggly the Gnome said:

I fully expect to hear people both complain about it being a pointless cash grab that didn't make needed changes and that they were "lied to" about it being backwards compatible.

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yup...
the man that stands in the middle of the road gets hit by cars going both ways

Crimson Longinus said:

No, there is no point anymore. And as species no longer have different heights and weights halflings can be six feet tall.

I really don’t like this. I want the size to matter more, not less.

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Is there a game that is more gritty by height? (Did Villains and Vigilantes have a formula that went by player weight for carrying capacity or something like that?)

I can see an optional rule somewhere that is more crunchy in D&D, but not getting through as the default anymore.