The "I Didn't Comment in Another Thread" Thread

Tbh, I never had particularly strong opinions about pumpkin spice.
Or any of the other ones, for that matter.



Wait wut?

Cadence said:

My ongoing Pumpkin Beer Rating List (parentheses are the beer advocate ratings last time I checked for that one, ordering within category is by that). Categorizations subject to change. I apparently like the pumpkin spice in beer more than the pumpkin.
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Of those, the only differences I'd have are that I like the Weyerbacher, Pumking, and Dogfish Head more than you. Two Roads and Heavy Seas make stuff I like pretty well, too, that you apparently haven't had (though I haven't had everything on your list).

Also, Prairie makes like really strong beers as a rule, I think.

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I’d like my Pumptini shaken, not stirred.

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Haven't had it yet, but I hear it sometimes in the night during decorative gourd season.

prabe said:

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Haven't had it yet, but I hear it sometimes in the night during decorative gourd season.

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I've not had many, maybe even any, good flavored whiskies, but cant knock it until I rock it.

Ryujin said:

Huh. I prefer my pumpkin in Jack-o-Lantern, roasted seed, or pie form.

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Once you’ve had a great Tortelli di zucca you can’t go back.

payn said:

I've not had many, maybe even any, good flavored whiskies, but cant knock it until I rock it.

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I still think of myself as learning whiskies, much as I like 'em. Flavored whiskies seem like a side project or something.

Snarf Zagyg said:

Look, we really really REALLY need to stop making everything some sort of "punching up/punching down" bizzare thing.

Do you know what the actual demographics are? Do you want to know?

Pumpkin spice is OVER-REPRESENTED by male buyers (for example, they make up 47% of PSL buyers, which is almost half, but is much more than the 37% of regular lattes that they normally buy).

What about age? 45% of purchasers of PSL are 45% are older- in fact, because they are more expensive, it skews to an older and wealthier demographic (not teenagers).

(This is as of 2019)

So yeah- as fun as this might be, maybe let's not do this? Also let's not characterize how women drink and make choices incorrectly?

Sometimes a Seasonal Beverage that gets overrepresented in culture and then gets a backlash is just a seasonal beverage with a backlash.

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It's not the stats. It's the coding: How Men Elevate, and Women Ruin, the Foods They Love

This is my favorite way to enjoy "pumpkin spiced bourbon."

First, get your hands on this little gem: Pumpkin Spice Bitters.


Then, make yourself an Old Fashioned with it and your favorite mid-shelf bourbon:


(Save the top shelf stuff for your rocks glass.)

prabe said:

Also, Prairie makes like really strong beers as a rule, I think.

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I had the comments on the Avery Rumpkin and the Prairie Kerfuffle switched. The former is 16.9% in rum barrels and the later is a sour at a much more reasonable 8.2%. (Should be fixed now). Sours, IPAs, and super-high ABV are not in my usual wheel-house.

billd91 said:

It's not the stats. It's the coding: How Men Elevate, and Women Ruin, the Foods They Love

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I'm going to put this in the nicest way possible- that article is a load of crud. Notice the complete and utter lack of any supporting evidence? It's one of those "Gladwell-esque just right" stories we like to tell ourselves. "Oh look, it feels right, so it must be right." But it's not.

That's not too say that there aren't underlying coding issues in society- and people that will attack based on them; one of the most famous and easy to identify is how disco was attacked by "rock fans," not because it was bad, or because it was unpopular- but because it was transgressive and explicitly dominated by queer and POC.

Here, though, that is just incorrect. It is true that "men's issues" in the food world are taken more seriously- despite the prominence of women in most areas of cooking overall, it is hardly shocking that male chefs dominate the upper echelons of the profession.

That said, the waves of popularity of food do not have the same issues. For example- the whole wave of cupcake mania? The rise and fall of it wasn't coded in any way. Same with microbrews - an aggressively male area to begin with that was also mercilessly mocked for a while (pretentious, etc.).

Pretty much all of the examples used in this article are nothing more than branding exercises. Not coding- not belittling, but almost always trying to expand brands; often in unintentionally hilarious fashion (biohack is going to age as well, most likely, as extreme did).

Most products would KILL for the massive popularity and category-creep of pumpkin spice. In order to have backlash, you have to be popular. This isn't about coding, and I am quite sure that the fans of pumpkin spice can defend themselves and their tastes ... as they have in this thread.