D&D (2024) Class spell lists and pact magic are back!

CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing (He/They)

• Aug 10, 2023

• #31

RoughCoronet0 said:

Honestly I might just homebrew Rangers getting access to Druid spells, Paladins getting access to Cleric spells and Sorcerers getting access to Wizard spells (and maybe even Druid spells too). They are already limited either by being a Half Casters or having a much smaller spells known pool so I don’t see a problem with this.

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Agreed. Sorcerer, Warlock, and CleDruWiz are more about how the spells are cast, and less about which spells.

One of my earliest characters was a sorcerer who pulled his spells from the Druid list. A lot more fun than the default "I'm a wizard except I'm not."

 

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MockingBird

Hero

• Aug 10, 2023

• #32

I'm generally happy with how the playtest is shaping up but I honestly would like to see short rests gone.

 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)

• Aug 10, 2023

• #33

mellored said:

Just guessing, but...

Warlocks get X slots per day.
And get Y back on a short rest.
And all the slots scale as before.

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Basically like channel divinity in the last couple packets. I’d be fine with that.

 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)

• Aug 10, 2023

• #34

Reynard said:

I am beginning to think that D&D 2024 is going to spark the first Anti-Edition War. It will be fun to watch from the sidelines.

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People abandoning it cause it’s not a new edition? That is some pretty tasty irony.

 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)

• Aug 10, 2023

• #35

MockingBird said:

I'm generally happy with how the playtest is shaping up but I honestly would like to see short rests gone.

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Between monk’s points still being short rest based, some features like channel divinity going from prof uses per day to 2 uses per day and recovering one on a short rest, and now getting confirmation that pact magic is coming back, the clear signal I’m getting is that the short rest haters are a vocal minority, and most of the 5e player base wants them to stay.

 

fluffybunbunkittens

Hero

• Aug 10, 2023

• #36

I kind of liked 'proficiency times per day', but definitely did not like the idea of keeping track of 10 abilities that all worked like that.

It just seemed much closer to their design sensibilities, to just rely on long rest.

 

Minigiant

Legend

Supporter

• Aug 11, 2023

• #37

Spell lists are good.

The problem is WOTC 's bias to wizard, lack of mechanical inspiration, and slow release schedule.

Pact Magic coming pack is great. Likely more slots per rest.

 

Minigiant

Legend

Supporter

• Aug 11, 2023

• #38

Shadowedeyes said:

This reverting back only helps the Wizard class

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The truth is.

This is because TSR and WOTC wizards are bland and flavorless. And 5e's are more bland.

Wizards are just spells and a spellbook. No other class features. And even though 50-90% of any books new spells go to wizards, that's only once a year for 3-10 spells every 3 years.

So now the milk and toast milquetoast just spells caster is boring without new exciting design.

But the "let the DM handle it" and "Backwards Compatibility " crowds are in not rush for that

 

mellored

Legend

• Aug 11, 2023

• #39

Charlaquin said:

Basically like channel divinity in the last couple packets. I’d be fine with that.

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Could probably do monks that way too.

X ki per day
Recovery Y ki per short rest.

 

tetrasodium

Legend

Supporter

Epic

• Aug 11, 2023

• #40

mellored said:

Could probably do monks that way too.

X ki per day
Recovery Y ki per short rest.

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I dunno... Maybe with.....

Spoiler

It could work