2000-2009 Aging Badly?

Zardnaar

Legend
Then every popular show that ever existed is "on" if it is in reruns. That's not what is usually meant by contemporary with Seinfeld. Hogan's Heroes was show during the time of the Vietnam War. Seinfeld was not.

I know all I did was list what comedies I was watching when Seinfeld started here. Context was what my tastes were at the time.

I never got Seinfeld for whatever reasons, neither did my mother. It wasn't to my taste.

Thread drifted a bit as Seinfeld finished up in 98 iirc, not 2000-2009. I don't mind as such and someone might have watched it for the 1st time in 2000 or whatever.
 

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Hussar

Legend
Yeah. That's today's socio-policial environment.

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And that's why the world needs Jackass now more than ever

The funny thing is, no, it's got nothing to do with "today's" socio-political environment.

Don't punch down was ALWAYS the watch word in comedy. Today's comedians complaining about not being able to do comedy today, were the first ones decrying yesterday's comedians being offensive.

Here's a clipping from 1958:

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The more things change..
 

Zardnaar

Legend
The funny thing is, no, it's got nothing to do with "today's" socio-political environment.

Don't punch down was ALWAYS the watch word in comedy. Today's comedians complaining about not being able to do comedy today, were the first ones decrying yesterday's comedians being offensive.

Here's a clipping from 1958:

711810_v3.jpg


The more things change..

Lol. +1good sir.
 

Undrave

Legend
The funny thing is, no, it's got nothing to do with "today's" socio-political environment.

Don't punch down was ALWAYS the watch word in comedy. Today's comedians complaining about not being able to do comedy today, were the first ones decrying yesterday's comedians being offensive.

Here's a clipping from 1958:

711810_v3.jpg


The more things change..

The only thing that changed is that people aren't willing to take insults laying down anymore...
 

Hussar

Legend
Well, to be fair, they never really were. What's changed is that those who are not taking the insults laying down now have a larger venue to make their voices heard.

But, I mean, even if you go back a ways, it's always been problematic for comics. Mel Brooks almost was ruined by The Producers back in the 60's. Was totally panned, and was seriously criticized for making Hitler jokes only a couple of decades after the end of WWII. Now, The Producers is a major Broadway hit, and has won more awards than it can count.

Monty Python's The Life of Brian was banned, or rated X in most of Europe and is now seen as one of the greatest things ever.

What's really changed is that it's becoming clear that punching down and pandering to young white males who feel threatened by "PC culture" is becoming less and less acceptable.
 


"...now you know who doesn't like that joke is people with nut allergies, and you know who does like that joke is everyone else. And I feel conflicted about that because there's 500 people in this room right now and 497 of us are like 'Ha ha! Nuts in the air!' and three of us, secretly, are like 'that's my life' and I don't want to be that to you, but jokes have to be about something..."
 
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Istbor

Dances with Gnolls
A few weren't very good back then, they're worse now.

Nu Metal was Korn, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit etc. You've never heard Numb?


That one's not to bad IMHO.

Subway was pushed as being healthy using Jared as a spokesman. He is currently a guest in the US penitentiary system for kiddie porn.

Ummm... I am not sure I understand this. Yes, I can see how Jackass hasn't aged well. But was it good in the first place?

Subway still seems fine to me. Of course eating at a fast food sandwich shop isn't as healthy as making it yourself. Jared is long gone, and I think the company has pretty successfully divorced itself from him. There are still a billion of the places all over.

And Nu Metal? Do you know how many bands that encompasses? And how many of those are still popular? Heck, Slayer is still somehow out there touring and being successful. Not to mention a bunch of others. You listed like one of the worst bands ever, and then one where the front man died. Korn is still selling out concerts.

Nu Metal is an awfully large umbrella, and there are groups under it that are certainly still thriving and making hits.

This seems more of a thread about, "hey, remember this stuff" rather then things that have aged badly. I do however agree, I can't watch old sitcoms anymore. Kind of rough.
 


Zardnaar

Legend
Ummm... I am not sure I understand this. Yes, I can see how Jackass hasn't aged well. But was it good in the first place?

Subway still seems fine to me. Of course eating at a fast food sandwich shop isn't as healthy as making it yourself. Jared is long gone, and I think the company has pretty successfully divorced itself from him. There are still a billion of the places all over.

And Nu Metal? Do you know how many bands that encompasses? And how many of those are still popular? Heck, Slayer is still somehow out there touring and being successful. Not to mention a bunch of others. You listed like one of the worst bands ever, and then one where the front man died. Korn is still selling out concerts.

Nu Metal is an awfully large umbrella, and there are groups under it that are certainly still thriving and making hits.

This seems more of a thread about, "hey, remember this stuff" rather then things that have aged badly. I do however agree, I can't watch old sitcoms anymore. Kind of rough.

Slayers thrash metal. They're one of the big 4 thrash metal bands along with Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth.
 

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