D&D 5E 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

[fearsomepirate]

what?? No, its a different creature that isn't charmed.
wtf

Your summon is itself a magical effect, and it does not act on its own.

 

[Hohige]

• A charmed creature can’t Attack the charmer or target the charmer with harmful Abilities or magical Effects.

He isn't targeting nothing. The Simulacrum is another creature.

Damage and concentration check.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

[We're seeing tens of page of contestation of rulings.... and we're not at the end of round 1...]

 

[prabe]

Your summon is itself a magical effect, and it does not act on its own.

There's support for that. The simulacrum "follows your instructions" and since you are charmed you cannot order it to attack an entity that has charmed you.

(note: not saying it's how I'd rule; saying there's support)

 

[Hohige]

There's support for that. The simulacrum "follows your instructions" and since you are charmed you cannot order it to attack an entity that has charmed you.

(note: not saying it's how I'd rule; saying there's support)

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
ahhahaha
It doesn't TARGET .with harmful Abilities or magical Effects.


Yuan-ti turn:
You sucesseful to dispel Nightmare, Nightmare is hostile and cannot roll persuation. WTF
The DM Changes the actions and distances clearly described by the Galandris.


My turn:
Now my Simulacrum, who had already received the command before, cannot attack because I am charmed.
Hahahahaha

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

[I am frantically looking through the game rules to find spells that would protect us from the "rocks fall, everyone die" that would happen if I were seeing such level of contestation at a real table. ]

 

[fearsomepirate]

Yep. And that includes ordering summoned/controlled/dominated/etc beings to target the charmer. I also include in this attempting to indirectly target the charmer, e.g. "OK, I don't attack the wizard, I attack the bridge he's standing on!"

You're charmed, stop trying to find a loophole.

 

[Hohige]

Yep. And that includes ordering summoned/controlled/dominated/etc beings to target the charmer. I also include in this attempting to indirectly target the charmer, e.g. "OK, I don't attack the wizard, I attack the bridge he's standing on!"

You're charmed, stop trying to find a loophole.

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• A charmed creature can’t Attack the charmer or target the charmer with harmful Abilities or magical Effects.

That was the worst thing I've heard in a long time. Now, Charmed also affects the Simulacrum.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

[I am planning to cast Prestidigitation at some point, because it can season a meal. I wouldn't want Yeenoghu's meal to taste bland].

 

[Oofta]

[We're seeing tens of page of contestation of rulings.... and we're not at the end of round 1...]

Yeah, if I were running a public event and got this kind of behavior I'd be asking the person to leave the table by now.