D&D 4E 4E in 2008? Fact or Fiction?

[Von Ether]

The only thing that will change for me if it's remotely true is that d20 Modern will look even more appealing since it was left alone. Perhaps the 2008 date is for d20 M 2.0.?

Even then, that will just mean I'll pick up a Mongoose pocket guide or Grim Tales instead. LOL!

 

[twofalls]

Heck, my group and I still play 3.0. If 4.0 comes out and its as much of an improvement as 3.5 was I might be able to consider purchasing it as there will actually BE enough new material for me to justify buying the books over again. Then again, probably not. :\

 

[Staffan]

Personally, I think we will see 4e in 2006. I also doubt that it will be announced until GTS (GAMA Trade Show) in early 2006. By making the announcement at GTS, they are able to notify many retailers and distributors all at once and still have several months to ramp up to their release date (I expect GTS to be the time of announcement no matter what year it actually gets released).

Charles Ryan has gone on record as saying there will be at least a year or two between the announcement and release of 4th ed, and that 3.5e will be supported for "years to come."

 

[Kanegrundar]

Well, it's been a good run. We had a couple good months without another 4E prediction thead.

All I have to say is that I am enjoying 3.x and I don't want another edition. Period. Since I know that there WILL be another in the future, I wouldn't expect it out until GenCon '08-'10. Maybe by that point I'll be interested in a new edition, but I really doubt it.

Kane

 

[Telas]

First off, this actual thread: No, you won't hear it from a WizO. Sounds like a rumor.

As for 4th ed, when it comes: I would love a simple system, but complexity sells. And there's the problem. How many Prestige Classes are we at now? How many races, classes, and feats? Do they really add to your enjoyment the game, or to the bottom line?

Frankly, I think D&D would best be served by a simplified system. Have a number of base classes, and a lot of flexibility inherent in the system. But the bottom line will not be served that way. WotC makes money selling books, and the more they can add to the system, the more books they can sell.

Which is why D&D is the top-heavy monstrosity it is today.

Telas

PS: The above is strictly my opinion, nothing more.

 

[Ranger REG]

Frankly, I think D&D would best be served by a simplified system.

Like how the purpose of 2e is to simplify 1e ruleset?

Isn't that what the Basic Game and that For Dummies book are for?

Besides, let me rewind back to 1999, in an Eric Noah's messageboards, where many posts from gamers expressed collectively a dislike for "dumbed down" rulebooks.

 

[mhacdebhandia]

I think people who believe that the OGL and the d20 License have been bad for Wizards of the Coast's business ought to be investigated by the FBI for their obvious heavy hard drug use. Surely these people consume enough that they qualify as dealers, and their network is spread across the country and around the world!

 

[Tuzenbach]

First off, this actual thread: No, you won't hear it from a WizO. Sounds like a rumor.

As for 4th ed, when it comes: I would love a simple system, but complexity sells. And there's the problem. How many Prestige Classes are we at now? How many races, classes, and feats? Do they really add to your enjoyment the game, or to the bottom line?

Frankly, I think D&D would best be served by a simplified system. Have a number of base classes, and a lot of flexibility inherent in the system. But the bottom line will not be served that way. WotC makes money selling books, and the more they can add to the system, the more books they can sell.

Which is why D&D is the top-heavy monstrosity it is today.

Telas

PS: The above is strictly my opinion, nothing more.

Concur 100%.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Like how the purpose of 2e is to simplify 1e ruleset?

Isn't that what the Basic Game and that For Dummies book are for?

Besides, let me rewind back to 1999, in an Eric Noah's messageboards, where many posts from gamers expressed collectively a dislike for "dumbed down" rulebooks.

A lot of us, however, do not believe that "simplified" automatically equals "dumbed down." Nor do we believe that "options" always has to equal "complexity."

The above are true to an extent, perhaps, but I firmly believe there's a solid area of compromise somewhere between the two.

 

[philreed]

I think people who believe that the OGL and the d20 License have been bad for Wizards of the Coast's business ought to be investigated by the FBI for their obvious heavy hard drug use. Surely these people consume enough that they qualify as dealers, and their network is spread across the country and around the world!

How has it been good for WotC? In the last year? Look at the thread on why people don't read Dragon to see how it has not been good for official D&D products. Or any number of threads on this board where people proclaim that a number of publishers are releasing better products than WotC. Sure it's a tiny, tiny number of people but if the OGL didn't exist the choice would be official D&D or nothing.

It's my opinion that the OGL has helped far more small companies than it has WotC.