D&D (2024) A new idea for Topple

Pauln6

Hero
You could allow a wielder to push as normal while wielding the weapon with a +2 DC to any save to avoid being knocked prone and inflicting 1 damage. Then auto prone on a crit.
 

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Stalker0

Legend
How about...

Immediately after you hit a creature with this weapon, you can use a bonus action to knock them prone.
likely too good, prone on tap would be very strong.

its why I ultimately went to a crit for my idea. I don't think prone is balanceable without a save unless the conditions to get it are pretty special.

The idea of "condition stacking" might actually be pretty good since we have the other masteries. So we have this idea:

Topple
When you hit a target with this weapon, if the target has been force moved this turn, you knock the target prone.


So this would combo with the push mastery or other force movement type effects. Even then though, that still might be considered jsut too good.

you could take it one step further.

Topple
When you hit a target with this weapon while you have advantage, if the target has been force moved this turn, you knock the target prone.

So a little bit more conditional.
 


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