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Another Terminator: Dark Fate Trailer

Zardnaar

Adventurer
Much better than the first trailer.

Looks like they're going with self aware Terminators or T-800s that can break their programming.
 

Zardnaar

Adventurer
Plus the other type of cyborg - human with augmentations.
She presumably has human brain

One model they had in the books was enha ced humans with a control chip. They could take a bigger beating than a normal human but weren't as tough for obvious reasons.

Just had a thought about why the T-800 would help Sarah, might but be breaking it's programming. Spoiler territory though.
 

Tonguez

Adventurer
Much better than the first trailer.

Looks like they're going with self aware Terminators or T-800s that can break their programming.
isnt that essentially what T-800 did in both T2 and T3 - conflicting instructions causing it to glitch and break programming.

but RIP John, at least we get to see Linda Hamilton back in action
 

Zardnaar

Adventurer
isnt that essentially what T-800 did in both T2 and T3 - conflicting instructions causing it to glitch and break programming.

but RIP John, at least we get to see Linda Hamilton back in action
T2 and T3 they were reprgramned.

T3 I think he did, T2 not sure. They are capable of learning.

T1 Kyle did say you can't reason with them.

I've watched the all recently, hadn't seen T1 since the early 90s.

There's a big shift in tone of the movies. T1 had horror elements, T2 an action movie with a slight amount if humor, T3 over dis the humor but I like the movie, Salvation and Genesys makes me wonder.
 

Imaculata

Explorer
It's a better trailer, but the movie still looks terrible. And that "I'll be back" line completely flatlines.
 

jonesy

A Wicked Kendragon
I thought I had this figured out, but now I'm kinda confused again. Which movie are they following the story from? T3? T2? Chronicles?

We can switch to full screen video from the new boards. Praise be.
Oh, so we can. Nice.
 

jonesy

A Wicked Kendragon
Last trailer I guess I mentally skipped the part with Arnold showing up, but this time all I could think of was "Where did he come from? It can't be the same one? Why is it acting as if it remembers them?"
 

Nebulous

Adventurer
I just can't get excited by this trailer. Or the franchise. This story was over after T2 and it has never, and probably won't, be able to top it.

MAYBE if they remake the whole thing, scrap Arnie, and reboot it with a slightly different angle.
 

Zardnaar

Adventurer
I just can't get excited by this trailer. Or the franchise. This story was over after T2 and it has never, and probably won't, be able to top it.

MAYBE if they remake the whole thing, scrap Arnie, and reboot it with a slightly different angle.
That was the TV show sort of.
 

Zardnaar

Adventurer
A shame. I enjoyed Salvation.
I rewatched Salvation recently and it was decent enough but I liked T3 would have been better if they dialed the humour down though.

The main problem with Salvation is it doesn't really follow the lore in T1 and T2 or the tone.

Salvation is kind if like Star Wars or a typical American type idealized group fighting against the big evil.

T1 had horror elements, T2 toned it down but still showed you glimpses of the future. Either way it was more a survival type vibe and humans can only come out at night.

Salvation has them in daylight and things like airstrikes which is a different vibe than T1/T2. Ye ha GI Joe type vibe.

Also they're killing the Terminators fairly easily without future tech plasma weapons.

Also in T1 it's established the machines can't be reasoned with or negotiated with and they move away from that as well so free willed Terminator/Humanhybrids come across as silly along with things like they capture Kyle Reese and don't just terminate him instead.

And if judgement day can't be prevented it kind of makes T1and T2 pointless.

It's why I think a lot of reboots and latter day sequals fall flat. Some simple rules to obey IMHO.

1. Be respectful of the original source material.

2. Internal consistency in your franchises rules/logic etc.

3. Don't negate the achievements of the original heroes/protagonists.

T3 the tone was off at least they tried though, Salvation and Genesys they just gave up.

I don't think this new one is going to do very well. It's going to violate rule 1 and 3 a lot.
 
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jonesy

A Wicked Kendragon
The main problem with Salvation is it doesn't really follow the lore in T1 and T2 or the tone ..

.. Salvation has them in daylight and things like airstrikes which is a different vibe than T1/T2. Ye ha GI Joe type vibe.
Replying to just this part, because I was just watching this:


At 11:43 "The executive producer begged us to write more of the scenes as daytime because of the perceived cost difference, but I plunged madly on. It seemed so important, stylistically, to keep the film a night film as much as possible."
 

Zardnaar

Adventurer
Replying to just this part, because I was just watching this:


At 11:43 "The executive producer begged us to write more of the scenes as daytime because of the perceived cost difference, but I plunged madly on. It seemed so important, stylistically, to keep the film a night film as much as possible."
Never seen this clip before.

I watched The Terminator last week. Hadn't seen it since probably the early 90s.

It's a lot darker than the later films literally and in tone. T2 kind of followed it up, T3 I thought was clever but tried to be to funny.

I went to T3 at the theatre with very low exp ectations but came away pleasantly surprised.
 

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