Wulf Ratbane
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Eolin said:
Umm... No chance it's related to your Super Cleanse diet?
Another "women" venting thread.
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Umm... No chance it's related to your Super Cleanse diet?
Teflon Billy
Explorer
fusangite said:
"it"
Thanks man, wish you could've made it.
Rel
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Eolin, my advice to you is simple (though probably not easy): Have fun and love life. Do things that you enjoy as often as you can and let the rest take care of itself.
I'm not a total hedonist or anything but I've observed two things that I deem relevant to your situation:
1) When you have plenty of fun alternatives, not getting to do a particular thing (like date this girl in the near future) won't bother you as much.
2) Women like guys who are active in doing other things. One big reason for this seems to be that they regard it as a challenge to be more interesting than the other things the guy might do. And the confidence/slight indifference that results seems to call to them like moths to a flame. If you're trying to schedule a date and she says, "What about Wednesday?" and you respond, "No can do. I play soccer that night," then it says, "I might like you, lady, but I don't NEED you. I'm pretty happy with my life."
Drives 'em nuts!
But what do I know, I'm just some middle aged married guy?
(Speaking of which, congrats TB! I'm sure that nice guys the world over rejoice at you being off the market.
I'll buy you a drink to celebrate at GenCon.)
I'm not a total hedonist or anything but I've observed two things that I deem relevant to your situation:
1) When you have plenty of fun alternatives, not getting to do a particular thing (like date this girl in the near future) won't bother you as much.
2) Women like guys who are active in doing other things. One big reason for this seems to be that they regard it as a challenge to be more interesting than the other things the guy might do. And the confidence/slight indifference that results seems to call to them like moths to a flame. If you're trying to schedule a date and she says, "What about Wednesday?" and you respond, "No can do. I play soccer that night," then it says, "I might like you, lady, but I don't NEED you. I'm pretty happy with my life."
Drives 'em nuts!
But what do I know, I'm just some middle aged married guy?
(Speaking of which, congrats TB! I'm sure that nice guys the world over rejoice at you being off the market.
I'll buy you a drink to celebrate at GenCon.)Rel, I appreciate the advice. I think it is a little misdirected. I've got plenty of friends, and plenty of fun things to do. I suppose that didn't come across in the previous posts.
I've been annoyed at her lack of responce mainly because she seemed really interested -- it was written in her eyes and on her face. I'm not really much of a mindreader, and I don't take the lack of communication to be communication.
Sure, I make it a habit to stop calling after 3 unreturned phone calls -- I can take a hint eventually. That's what I did this time.
Anyway, either I am explaining myself worse and worse, or I m being given a less and less charitable interpretation as this thread goes on -- it started off well enough. I opened it up so I could vent, something I no longer feel the need to do.
I appreciate advice, I do. The recent advice merely does not seem to be quite jiving with the situation.
I've been annoyed at her lack of responce mainly because she seemed really interested -- it was written in her eyes and on her face. I'm not really much of a mindreader, and I don't take the lack of communication to be communication.
Sure, I make it a habit to stop calling after 3 unreturned phone calls -- I can take a hint eventually. That's what I did this time.
Anyway, either I am explaining myself worse and worse, or I m being given a less and less charitable interpretation as this thread goes on -- it started off well enough. I opened it up so I could vent, something I no longer feel the need to do.
I appreciate advice, I do. The recent advice merely does not seem to be quite jiving with the situation.
Gentlegamer
Adventurer
My experience has shown this to be generally true during the meeting/dating/courting phase. At some point, the lady should become the most important thing, and you her most important thing. Ah, true love!Rel said:
Rel
Liquid Awesome
Eolin, I didn't mean to imply that your life wasn't fun and exciting. If it is then that's great. I was just pointing out that sometimes having a budding relationship flake on you can send people into a funk. That's natural to a point but it seems silly to let something that you have so little invested in to cause you a disproportionate amount of heartache and worry. Maybe my advice was more directed to other people reading the thread instead of you.
I agree with you insofar as we tend to form meaningful relationships and fall in love with those who capture our attention. And certainly those people should be granted some lattitude and defference for being our significant others. But I think there is a problem when someone in a relationship gets lazy and thinks that the other person should simply spend time with them out of a sense of entitlement.
I've heard female friends complain about their husbands not wanting to spend enough time with them and asking me what's wrong with these men. I have told a couple of them (ones who I knew could take a bit of criticism), "Maybe you should try to be interesting." What I mean is that if all of the things that they want their husbands to spend time doing are things that the husbands find intensely boring then of course they're going to minimize the time they spend doing them. If they want to be the most important thing in their man's life then one good way to do it is to find things that both of them enjoy doing and do those things.
The opposite could also be true of course but I rarely hear my guy friends complaining about not getting to spend enough time with their wives.
Gentlegamer said:
I agree with you insofar as we tend to form meaningful relationships and fall in love with those who capture our attention. And certainly those people should be granted some lattitude and defference for being our significant others. But I think there is a problem when someone in a relationship gets lazy and thinks that the other person should simply spend time with them out of a sense of entitlement.
I've heard female friends complain about their husbands not wanting to spend enough time with them and asking me what's wrong with these men. I have told a couple of them (ones who I knew could take a bit of criticism), "Maybe you should try to be interesting." What I mean is that if all of the things that they want their husbands to spend time doing are things that the husbands find intensely boring then of course they're going to minimize the time they spend doing them. If they want to be the most important thing in their man's life then one good way to do it is to find things that both of them enjoy doing and do those things.
The opposite could also be true of course but I rarely hear my guy friends complaining about not getting to spend enough time with their wives.
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