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[Tales and Chronicles]

Yep. I’m working on a suite of spells for the Bard to bring back Bard Songs.

Tangent: please, share them when you finish! I think this is the only thing that stops the bard of being an awesome class.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Tangent: please, share them when you finish! I think this is the only thing that stops the bard of being an awesome class.

I will. I agree completely. It’s totally wild to me that the Bard doesn’t have something like this already.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

It could. My ideal would be for the class to grant bonuses on most turns, if not every turn.
However, perhaps in place of ki, it could have a feature when it hits something that allows it to boost its regular buff based on a die roll?

In the same idea of replacing Martial Arts with warlord stuff, I'd to something like this:

Level 1 Battle Harmony:

• Once per turn, when you take the attack action, you can use a bonus to grant an ally 1 more attack on its next turn.
• Once per turn, you can use an bonus action to grant a ''inspiration die'' to an ally within 60' that see or hear you.

Level 1 Inspiration Dice (ala Bard)

Lvl 1 Inspire Vigor
As an bonus action, choose a target that see or hear you within 30'. The ally regain 1d6+4 hit points to it, plus additional hit points equal to the creature's maximum number of Hit Dice. The creature can't regain hit points from this feature again until it finishes a short or long rest. (**could be Temp HP instead, depending on where you stand on martial healing). You can use this feature twice before needing a short rest.

Level 2 Shared Assault
Your mastery of battle tactics allow you a better control over the flow of battle. - Once per turn, you can use a bonus action to roll an inspiration die. You gain Command point equal to the number you rolled.

- Group Flurry: When you take the attack action, you can use a bonus action to spend 1 command point to grant two allies 1 more attack on its next turn.

• Defensive stance: As a bonus action, spend 1 command to allow an ally to take the dodge action as a reaction.
• Quick formation: As a bonus action, spend 1 command to allow an ally to take the dash or disengage action as a reaction.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

In the same idea of replacing Martial Arts with warlord stuff, I'd to something like this:

Level 1 Battle Harmony:

• Once per turn, when you take the attack action, you can use a bonus to grant an ally 1 more attack on its next turn.
• Once per turn, you can use an bonus action to grant a ''inspiration die'' to an ally within 60' that see or hear you.

Level 1 Inspiration Dice (ala Bard)

Lvl 1 Inspire Vigor
As an bonus action, choose a target that see or hear you within 30'. The ally regain 1d6+4 hit points to it, plus additional hit points equal to the creature's maximum number of Hit Dice. The creature can't regain hit points from this feat again until it finishes a short or long rest. (**could be Temp HP instead, depending on where you stand on martial healing). You can use this feature twice before needing a short rest.

Level 2 Shared Assault
Your mastery of battle tactics allow you a better control over the flow of battle. - Once per turn, you can use a bonus action to roll an inspiration die. You gain Command point equal to the number you rolled.

- Group Flurry: When you take the attack action, you can use a bonus action to spend 1 command point to grant two allies 1 more attack on its next turn.

• Defensive stance: As a bonus action, spend 1 command to allow an ally to take the dodge action as a reaction.
• Quick formation: As a bonus action, spend 1 command to allow an ally to take the dash or disengage action as a reaction.

That’s an interesting idea, for sure. I like the first part as is, and the command points thing could works with a little work.

 

[Iry]

Cleric by a considerable margin, especially the Life, War, and Order Domains. The Cleric spell list is practically screaming to be refluffed into Warlord-style acts of inspiration, brilliance, or bravura.

Alternatively, you could easily create an Inspiration Domain which allows Turning/Bolstering Humanoids, and using Intelligence or Charisma as the primary casting stat.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Cleric by a considerable margin, especially the Life, War, and Order Domains. The Cleric spell list is practically screaming to be refluffed into Warlord-style acts of inspiration, brilliance, or bravura.

Alternatively, you could easily create an Inspiration Domain which allows Turning/Bolstering Humanoids, and using Intelligence or Charisma as the primary casting stat.

I definitely think the Cleric should have an Inspiration Domain, regardless of the <blech > warlord discussion.

okay imma make another thread and see if I’m the minority amongst ppl who like the class...

 

[Fenris-77]

If I were going to do this I'd probably start with Paladin. You can rework Divine Smite, Auras and spell list to do a lot of what people are looking for.

 

[Tallifer]

Battlemaster plus Channel Authority

no spells

 

[Tallifer]

The whole point of the 4E Warlord was to play a martial support class. I played one several times.

All spellcasters already can give support, especially clerics and bards. No need to write a new spellcasting class to do their job.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

If I were going to do this I'd probably start with Paladin. You can rework Divine Smite, Auras and spell list to do a lot of what people are looking for.

I’d definitely make whatever replaces Spellcasting be much simpler than a spell list, but yes Paladin makes sense.
Strategies like giving all allies within 30ft a speed bonus are easy to gauge as spell equivalents, and damage is very straightforward.