D&D Movie/TV Bridgerton Star Regé-Jean Page Joins D&D Movie

Zardnaar · Feb 17, 2021

TheSword said:
Sure, but that was wrong. So now even though it may be historically inaccurate we do let women take those roles.

Yeah but any period piece set during that time frame could do that.

Women actors did exist even then but people thought they were whores. Which was true in some cases apparently.

More of a social more. Here 50 years ago women didn't really go to bars except ladies of the night. Maybe in the big cities but not towns. Rough parts of town maybe idk just going by what my mother said.

TheSword · Feb 17, 2021

Zardnaar said:
Yeah but any period piece set during that time frame could do that.

Women actors did exist even then but people thought they were whores. Which was true in some cases apparently.

More of a social more. Here 50 years ago women didn't really go to bars except ladies of the night. Maybe in the big cities but not towns. Rough parts of town maybe idk just going by what my mother said.

If you’re making a point it flew over my head. Women goes into a bar... people assume she’s a prostitute. Sounds a pretty sad state of affairs. Luckily we’ve moved on.

Shakespeare in Love plays around with the issue. A Woman pretending to be a man, pretending to be a woman. It’s both funny and clever, making a play on twelfth night simultaneously as the play on stage.

Zardnaar · Feb 17, 2021

TheSword said:
If you’re making a point it flew over my head. Women goes into a bar... people assume she’s a prostitute. Sounds a pretty sad state of affairs. Luckily we’ve moved on.

Shakespeare in Love plays around with the issue. A Woman pretending to be a man, pretending to be a woman. It’s both funny and clever, making a play on twelfth night simultaneously as the play on stage.

Yeah that's quite funny. I'm sure it happened as well.

If you want to make the distinction of it being unfair you can do that from a characters pic in the movie/show.

My classics teacher had an interesting way of explaining things in the Roman world.

I think it's more effective if it's just business as usual though as it kind of drives home the point just as hard.

Paul Farquhar · Feb 17, 2021

Zardnaar said:
My classics teacher had an interesting way of explaining things in the Roman world.

I think it's more effective if it's just business as usual though as it kind of drives home the point just as hard.

The point is, if you made a point about every point in which the past differed from the present, you would never get any storytelling done. Most of them would pass unnoticed by the people who are native to that time zone, and so "making a point of it" would in itself be anachronistic.

Consider Julius Caesar, by William Shakespeare. Although set in Ancient Rome, all the characters speak English rather than Latin. Shakespeare even makes an in-joke about it "it's all Greek to me" (educated Romans would have known Greek). There is also a reference to a chiming clock (not invented). And, of course, all the actors would have been white, English and male, rather than diverse and Mediterranean.

Zardnaar · Feb 17, 2021

Paul Farquhar said:
The point is, if you made a point about every point in which the past differed from the present, you would never get any storytelling done. Most of them would pass unnoticed by the people who are native to that time zone, and so "making a point of it" would in itself be anachronistic.

Consider Julius Caesar, by William Shakespeare. Although set in Ancient Rome, all the characters speak English rather than Latin. Shakespeare even makes an in-joke about it "it's all Greek to me" (educated Romans would have known Greek). There is also a reference to a chiming clock (not invented). And, of course, all the actors would have been white, English and male, rather than diverse and Mediterranean.

Makes sense for Rome though. Some of the Emperors were from Armenia and the eastern part of the Empire.

It was very cosmopolitan.

CubicsRube · Feb 17, 2021

Fallen star said:
Also, are all four humans? Or Drow,half orc, firbolg, tiefling?

That's a good question, and actually related to the original post (can we take the other conversation off thread please?)

What do you think? I wonder if they'd go a "safe" elf, dwarf, human etc.

Might be a more interesting take for them to put the unusual races like you said.

Maybe, tiefling, dragonborn, human, and ?

Paul Farquhar · Feb 17, 2021

Zardnaar said:
Makes sense for Rome though. Some of the Emperors were from Armenia and the eastern part of the Empire.

It was very cosmopolitan.

Rome was cosmopolitan, Tudor London less so. Shakespeare's cast would have reflected the time and place where it was performed, not the time and place where it was set.

Morrus · Feb 17, 2021

Spohedus said:
It’s not racist on the viewers point to despise this new genre of false period pieces. The show has the trappings of a historic film but is in fact not, which bothers some viewers. The same viewers would enjoy a proper period piece in sub Saharan Africa. But not if actors were inserted from Asia to play African roles. I find this genre of mixing actual history with an alternate whim of history to be intellectually dishonest and insulting to the viewer. Many feel as I do. The distaste has more to do with an intolerance of lies than racial prejudice imo.

I gotta say, fiction doesn't sound like a genre you should be watching. It's full of 'lies'.

As for D&D... yikes! Some of that isn't real either, I hear!

Morrus · Feb 17, 2021

And on that note, folks, this forum is not the place for discussion of whether you feel that people of a certain skin colour should be allowed to star in particular types of TV show. There are plenty of places on the web where you can rant about that to your heart's content, but this isn't one of them. Let's talk about the D&D movie, please.

Zardnaar · Feb 17, 2021

Paul Farquhar said:
Rome was cosmopolitan, Tudor London less so. Shakespeare's cast would have reflected the time and place where it was performed, not the time and place where it was set.

Absolutely. You use what you have access to.