Cleric Won't Heal?

[Zardnaar]

The cleric yesterday said something like.

"I'm not healing you unless you fall over".

Translation I'll save your life with healing word.

Magical healing in 5E kinda sucks and generally it can't keep up with incoming damage. Well outside unnerfed spirit guardians and builds involving life clerics.

No one else took any healing magic or anything else that helps in that regard.

I'm a Goliath Fighter and I took it to reduce dependence on healing. There's another fighter joining. But that healing/damage mitigation doesn't scale well.

I don't mind as I'm a short rest class so encourages short rests to use hit dice.

They gave spread the healing load out but doesn't help when no one else takes this options.

Thoughts on her statement or expectations if getting healed?

Input from barbarian players be nice.

 

[MarkB]

Might be better to ask in the D&D forum?

 

[tommybahama]

1. Ask your DM to make drinking potions a bonus action.
2. Make a party rule that each Adventurer must have two healing potions before loot is divvied up.

 

[Bayushi_seikuro]

I think discussing healing in 5e is another example where specifics help. There are plenty of ways for a cleric to be a total healbot easily, but there are also plenty of ways a cleric can help with damage mitigation - Grave cleric cancelling crits, for example, while also able to let the next hit the target take take double damage comes to mind.

I personally am fond of the house rule that drinking a potion takes a bonus action, but it's a full action to feed a potion to an unconscious person.

No one else took healing magic. I will tell you, I've played in and ran games without clerics - you have to change your assumptions about how you go about things. I apologize if I'm wrong - hadn't you also had a topic about killing the Lawful Stupid paladin and being a lawful neutral DM? It would seem that in the world you're playing, if you're adventuring without a healer, you would just need to adapt and carry extra healing.

 

[MarkB]

Given that low health doesn't impede a character's capability, only healing people once they drop can be a viable tactic - but only if the enemy cooperates by ignoring downed characters in combat.

 

[Morrus]

Cleric won’t heal, Fighter won’t fight.

 

[Ryujin]

Cleric won’t heal, Fighter won’t fight.

This.

"Oops! You mean that I should have somehow stopped that opponent from breaking through the lines? My bad."

 

[aco175]

I heard on maybe these boards before that the math of 5e makes it so healing is a bad choice for clerics unless someone goes down. People were saying that a cleric can do so much more than heal, like attack, spells, or even aid.

When we play, I like to have a bit of 4e with the bloodied condition(ish). PCs can put the red circle on their PC figure to indicate that they are in need of healing. Of course they can also call out, but the red circle tells people watching the board that I'm in need. This allows the cleric to choose what to do

 

[Eltab]

What did the fighter do that offended the Cleric? (Or more accurately, what did the respective players thereof do?)

 

[ccs]

I've no real problem with that. The player has told you up front that they aren't playing a healbot & that you should plan accordingly.
You want a healbot, play one yourself.
I've played in games like that.
Hell, I've played such a cleric - in 1e!

And even though they said that? There very well might be times when they will, times when thats the right tactic. After all, the right spell at the right time can swing a fight. Healing doesn't need to be spammed or overpowered to be effective.