[Closed] The Standing Stone

[Ferrix]

Since it's a gestalt game, the way he's built it is that the racial levels (HD & ECL) take up one side of his gestalt build. From what I could tell Rayex didn't object, but might not have seen what he explicitly meant.

Seeing as most people are taking up the main combat roles, I might change my focus a bit to have less competition.

 

[Velmont]

I may be off (I don't have Races of Stone), but a stonechild is at least ECL +4, so your character as written would be a 10th level character, not a 6th.

I don't have it either and I don't know how to handle exactly ECL, but I think to understadn how Nac have handle his character:

It's a 2 hit-die EL +4 race, and the book provides a 6-level "monster class" which gives all the benefits evenly spaced out over 6 levels (but only giving HD at 2 levels).

So for a 2 HD race and a ECL +4, I think it makes the StoneChild 6. So his race is one of his gestalt class, and his Figther 5 / StoneLord 1 is his other Gestalt progression...

Now, do the ECL apply to both progression or only one progression, I don't know.

 

[Thanee]

I may be off (I don't have Races of Stone), but a stonechild is at least ECL +4, so your character as written would be a 10th level character, not a 6th.

I suppose that's one of those monster classes, which slowly get towards the full benefits of the race in a monster class, that is similar to a standard base class, starting at 1st level.

Bye
Thanee

 

[stonegod]

I suppose that's one of those monster classes, which slowly get towards the full benefits of the race in a monster class, that is similar to a standard base class, starting at 1st level.

Yeah, then we have to get into odd debates about what the CR of a gestalt character with an ECL is. They don't serve the same role as a base class, so the assumption that they balance with a base class may not be appropriate. A rakasha 7/sorcerer 7 is not a CR 9 (assuming gestalts give you a +2 to the CR) as that plays directly to its strength.

 

[Velmont]

Yeah, then we have to get into odd debates about what the CR of a gestalt character with an ECL is. They don't serve the same role as a base class, so the assumption that they balance with a base class may not be appropriate. A rakasha 7/sorcerer 7 is not a CR 9 (assuming gestalts give you a +2 to the CR) as that plays directly to its strength.

If they have made a savage progression for a race, I would think it might be correct, but as anything, more you introduce things, easier is to create a mean combo. It will be Rayex call in the end.

Location: Souther Maine and Montreal

Lindy hopper, popper, dancer...

Well, I just remark that. Are you dancing on a regular basis in Montreal? And where? Are you coming to the Eastern Canadian Swing Championship?

@Others: Sorry for this out of subject questions, I am just too curious.

 

[Rayex]

Ok, some clarification:

If you'll play a race with a +X level adjustment, it counts on both sides. However, the stonechild is a 6level monster class as well; so taking this path will make a Monsterclass/regular class combo useable, at least the way I see it.

 

[Velmont]

Savage progression are just a way to progress through the HD and ECL of a higher HD/ECL race than a 1HD/ECL0. I don't think the savage progression have been thought as a class for Gestalt purpose.

 

[stonegod]

Ok, some clarification:

If you'll play a race with a +X level adjustment, it counts on both sides. However, the stonechild is a 6 level monster class as well; so taking this path will make a Monsterclass/regular class combo useable, at least the way I see it.

A character that takes an ECL 3 race and 1 level of bard and one that takes all 3 levels of that same race's monster progession and 1 level of bard are the same in CR. Thus, treating +X level adjustment vs. X levels of the "monstrous" class differently does not seem consistent.

 

[Thanee]

Added some more info to my first post. Working on the fluff parts now.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Shayuri]

Hello all!

Here's one side of the build I'm considering now...

Wiz 5 / Maester 3 / Effigy Master 5 (I realize that's only 13 levels, but I doubt this adventure will go even that far )

What are some good possibilities for the other side, d'ya think? Concept is a rebellious, brilliant, but unconventional-minded gnomelet. I'm ruling out bard, and have some ideas of my own, but other possibilities are always good...