Converting Epic Level Beings

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Added to Homebrews.

 

[Mortis]

Skills: Appraise, Bluff, Concentration, Diplomacy, Gather Information...

<edit>boss turned up - had to save post early

...Intimidate, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (geography), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (the planes), Listen, Search, Sense Motive, Spellcraft, Spot, Survival, Use Magic Device

Regards
Mortis

 

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Also...Disguise, Gather Information, and Jump are considered class skills for iron dragons.

So...
Appraise 51, Bluff 51, Concentration 34, Diplomacy 51, Disguise 34, Gather Information 51, Intimidate 51, Jump 34, Knowledge (arcana) 51, Knowledge (geography) 51, Knowledge (history) 51, Knowledge (the planes) 51, Listen 51, Search 51, Sense Motive 51, Spellcraft 51, Spot 51, Survival, Use Magic Device 51

How's that?

 

[Mortis]

How's that?

Looks good, although what he's going to disguise himself as is anyone's guess

Regards
Mortis

 

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Looks good, although what he's going to disguise himself as is anyone's guess

A red dragon?

I'm betting he'll only rely on that skill in alternate form.

I just noticed that I didn't assign any ranks to Survival. Here's how it currently breaks down after synergy and ability score modifiers....

Appraise +62, Bluff +62, Concentration +46, Diplomacy +68, Disguise +45 (+51 acting), Gather Information +62, Intimidate +68, Jump +58, Knowledge (arcana) +62, Knowledge (geography) +62, Knowledge (history) +62, Knowledge (the planes) +62, Listen +62, Search +62, Sense Motive +62, Spellcraft +68 (+74 scrolls), Spot +62, Survival +11 (+17 on other planes, +17 to avoid getting lost, +17 following tracks), Use Magic Device +62

Wanna strip 10 off Concentration, 6 off Diplomacy, and 4 off Intimidate and add those to Survival?

 

[Mortis]

Wanna strip 10 off Concentration, 6 off Diplomacy, and 4 off Intimidate and add those to Survival?

Sure

<edit>or we could take 10 off Disguise because if he only uses it with alternate form won't he get a +10 bonus as its magical?

Regards
Mortis

 

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SR 30 like Bahamut and Tiamat?

Natural armor? Tiamat has +48 natural armor; Bahamut has +52; great wyrm iron is +39.

Feats (he gets 17)?

Bahamut's Feats: Alertness, Blind-Fight, Combat Casting, Combat Expertise, Fly-By Attack, Hover, Improved Critical (bite), Improved Disarm, Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Quicken Spell-like Ability (sunburst), Snatch, Wingover (3.5 conversion guide does not mention additional feats for him)

Tiamat's Feats: Alertness, Awesome Blow, Blind-Fight, Combat Casting, Combat Expertise, Fly-By Attack, Greater Spell Penetration, Hover, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Critical (bite), Improved Initiative, Improved Overrun, Power Attack, Quicken Spell-like Ability (domination), Snatch, Spell Penetration, Wingover

In Common: Alertness, Blind-Fight, Combat Casting, Combat Expertise, Fly-By Attack, Hover, Improved Critical (bite), Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Quicken Spell-like Ability, Snatch, Wingover

If we use the common feats, he'll have 5 more to select. Awesome Blow and Improved Bull Rush seem decent. Others?

 

[Mortis]

SR 30 like Bahamut and Tiamat?

I'd say so

Natural armor? Tiamat has +48 natural armor; Bahamut has +52

Split the difference, 50?

If we use the common feats, he'll have 5 more to select. Awesome Blow and Improved Bull Rush seem decent. Others?

I'm happy with that, for the three addition feats, we could have Dire Charge [epic], Multiattack, and Improved Multiattack.

Regards
Mortis

 

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All that sounds good, except Improved Multiattack, which I don't believe is in the SRD. We could go with Epic Prowess to achieve an almost similar result. Sound good?

 

[Mortis]

All that sounds good, except Improved Multiattack, which I don't believe is in the SRD.

It's in the online hypertext version - possibly a mistake (oh it's an epic feat or at least in the epic section).

Regards
Mortis