Converting Epic Level Beings

[Shade]

Suggested Skills (13 at 53): Climb 30, Gather Information 51, Intimidate 53, Jump 23, Knowledge (history) 25, Knowledge (religion) 53, Knowledge (the planes) 53, Listen 53, Search 53, Sense Motive 53, Spot 53, Survival 53, Swim 30, Tumble 53, use Magic Device 53

Suggested Feats (17, 10 can be epic): Awesome Blow, Cleave, Combat Expertise, Combat Reflexes, Dodge, Epic Prowess (x2), Great Cleave, Improved Bull Rush, Mobility, Multiattack, Penetrate Damage Reduction (cold iron, silver), Power Attack, Spring Attack, Track, Whirlwind Attack

Note the lack of Improved Critical-like feats--since deities are immune to crits, I figured he wouldn't need 'em.

 

[Clifford]

I am disturbed by the lack of devistateing critical on this feat list. Also i was thinming sense he can turn his thingy into any weapon should we maybe give hims some sort of super weapon profishency power or perhapse some super threat range power like a nimblewrite. Those Agile construct thingies from MM2 i beleive.

Cliff
>=)

 

[Shade]

Devastating Critical does him little good...since all gods are immune to crititcals, and he is mainly trying to kill gods, it is a bit of a pointless feat chain.

Same goes for an augmented critical like ability. I'm assuming we'll make his triangle thingee a powerful epic weapon, so that should cover the "super weapon proficiency" power. Also, I gave him Epic Prowess (x2) to grant the equivalent of Weapon Focus (twice) to all his attacks.

 

[Mortis]

Devastating Critical does him little good...since all gods are immune to crititcals, and he is mainly trying to kill gods, it is a bit of a pointless feat chain.

Now, if we give him a Special Ability that allows him to crit gods...

Regards,
Mortis

 

[BOZ]

now you're talking crazy Mortis.

i'm fine with shade's list if you all are.

 

[BOZ]

since no one appears to have any issues with skill ranks, here are the skills with all the mods applied:
Skills: Climb +47, Gather Information +58, Intimidate +60, Jump +40, Knowledge (history) +30, Knowledge (religion) +58, Knowledge (the planes) +58, Listen +58, Search +58, Sense Motive +58, Spot +58, Survival +58, Swim +55, Tumble +57, Use Magic Device +60

 

[Clifford]

Yeah but now he cant even crit a human verry well. Also i was wondering about the super weapon profishencies because concevably the triangle thingy can turn into any weapon. even one ma-yuan might never have seen before. I am worried about non profishency penalties and what not.

CLiff
>=)

P.s. What do ya think of my avatar? Finaly got one.

 

[Mortis]

i'm fine with shade's list if you all are.

How about giving him a 'Smite Deity' Special Attack and replacing on the Epic Prowess feats with Great Smiting - or because it stacks replace both Epic Prowess feats with Great Smiting ?

Or (again replacing Epic Prowess) Improved Initiative and Dire Charge?

I tend to view the Epic Prowess feat as a bit of waste - as if you couldn't tell

Other than that, yes, Shade's list is fine.

Regards,
Mortis

 

[Shade]

Yeah but now he cant even crit a human verry well. Also i was wondering about the super weapon profishencies because concevably the triangle thingy can turn into any weapon. even one ma-yuan might never have seen before. I am worried about non profishency penalties and what not.

He doesn't really need to crit a human though, does he? As the "killer of the gods", I figure he simply ignores any non-deity unless they get in his way, and he can pretty easily dispatch most of 'em without needing a critical hit.

I definitely agree that when we writeup the triangle, we'll state that he is treated as having proficiency in the weapon, regardless of its source. I'd imagine it could take the form of any simple, martial, or exotic weapon...no limits. I think it would be cool if he tended to have it take the shape of the deity's favored weapon, so as he could kill them with their own weapon of choice.

P.s. What do ya think of my avatar? Finaly got one.

Nice.

How about giving him a 'Smite Deity' Special Attack and replacing on the Epic Prowess feats with Great Smiting - or because it stacks replace both Epic Prowess feats with Great Smiting ?

Or (again replacing Epic Prowess) Improved Initiative and Dire Charge?

I tend to view the Epic Prowess feat as a bit of waste - as if you couldn't tell

Smite Deity is a brilliant idea! As for Epic Prowess, I could care less whether he keeps it or not. I suggested it only because Weapon Focus wouldn't be possible with his weapon-that-can-be-any-weapon, and this would grant him a similar benefit.

Dire Charge, sadly, is a bit of a sucky feat, since it only works on the first round of combat.

Improved Initiative and/or Superior Init would be just fine.

 

[BOZ]

go ahead and write up the Smite Diety power, since it makes sense that he would have at least one special power that affects them. have the stipulation that it affects only beings with DvR 1 or higher.

fix up the feat least however you like, and that will be fine.