Converting the Dukes of Hell

[Gothenem]

Tiamat's aspect is also available for free as part of the FCII Web Enhancement; I believe this is the most current version. If you are going down the route of having Amduscias summon an aspect of Tiamat, I would leave it at that or make fiendish dragons the back-up. There are no real rules for quickly creating a hydra with five different breath weapons and a poison stinger other than the rules for creating a brand new monster, so you'd be adding a lot more work for the DM since they will have to create it from scratch.

Yeah, I forgot about the FC2 Enhancement.

Still, I disagree with your assertion that it is as difficult to alter a hydra minorly as it is to create a whole new monster from scratch.

Completely disagree. Use the Stats for a Hydra, except it can breathe and has a tail attack.

 

[Aspect of BOZ]

are the Dragon Magic aspect and FC2WE aspect mostly the same? if so, it might just be easiest to list both rather than quibble over it. then we don't have to tell people to do any math at all (even 1 + 1!)

 

[Gothenem]

are the Dragon Magic aspect and FC2WE aspect mostly the same? if so, it might just be easiest to list both rather than quibble over it. then we don't have to tell people to do any math at all (even 1 + 1!)

I'm not sure, I'll check when i get home.

Posting at work....
I suppose that makes me an Aspect of Gothenem ?!?!?!

 

[Shade]

Tiamat's aspect is also available for free as part of the FCII Web Enhancement; I believe this is the most current version. If you are going down the route of having Amduscias summon an aspect of Tiamat, I would leave it at that or make fiendish dragons the back-up. There are no real rules for quickly creating a hydra with five different breath weapons and a poison stinger other than the rules for creating a brand new monster, so you'd be adding a lot more work for the DM since they will have to create it from scratch.

True. It's the same issue as the fiendish dragons (unless sample fiendish dragons of appropriate age categories are readily available in the core books).

 

[Shroomy]

True. It's the same issue as the fiendish dragons (unless sample fiendish dragons of appropriate age categories are readily available in the core books).

There aren't, at least that I am aware of, however, IMO it is quicker and easier to apply a template to an existing monster than to build a new one from scratch.

 

[Shade]

Dragons are a special case, though. They require a lot of building before the template is even applied. I was proprosing just stating "use a five headed hydra and give it these two extra abilities". CR wouldn't matter since it's a summoned creature. That said, it would still be simpler to just state "use abishai or aspect of Tiamat", give their page numbers and sources, and leave it up to DMs to find suitable replacements.

 

[Shroomy]

Dragons are a special case, though. They require a lot of building before the template is even applied. I was proprosing just stating "use a five headed hydra and give it these two extra abilities". CR wouldn't matter since it's a summoned creature. That said, it would still be simpler to just state "use abishai or aspect of Tiamat", give their page numbers and sources, and leave it up to DMs to find suitable replacements.

Very true. I think you should be good to go with just the "Aspect of Tiamat (Dragon Magic)." The rationale for including the alternate hydra or fiendish dragons was that the Aspect of Tiamat is not in a core supplement. However, neither are abishai and we have not discussed replacements for them.

 

[Gothenem]

Statistically, the Aspect from the FC2 enhancement and the one from Dragon magic are different, however, the Challenge rating is the same (13), so it really shouldn't matter.

The summon should be the equivalent of an 8th-level spell (same as Summon Aspect of Tiamat is).

 

[Aspect of BOZ]

this is a minor aspect of the character, so i'd prefer the simplest solution. whatever would be easiest for DMs, and us, to handle - that's what i want to go with. no need to make a major issue out of it.

and even still, if we go with just the aspect from a single book, and the DM either doesn't have that or doesn't want to use it, it's always the DM's prerogative to switch it to a different aspect, a fiendish dragon, or whatever his little heart desires. (we could even make a parenthetical suggestion or two, which i have no problem with).

 

[Shade]

About time for a homebrews summary, cap'n?