D&D Movie/TV D&D Movie Hit or Flop?


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I was comparing on demand popularity because you made the claim that Mario made 75 million on demand. Later you provided a link supporting that statement, I then read it.

Do me the courtesy and read the links I provide

I've read a few but there's a lot of links and they get buried fast. I don't remember what pages anything is on including my own links.


What's the top ten atm?
 

I've read a few but there's a lot of links and they get buried fast. I don't remember what pages anything is on including my own links.


What's the top ten atm?
Top Ten streaming movies in the USA as of last Friday. I'll update again tomorrow.

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For on demand at Amazon Super Mario passed Honor Among Thieves and is now #1. D&D is #4. They've traded spots a handful of times, but when directly competing Mario has done a bit better.

On iTunes Super Mario was released on May 17th. Today is its first day at #1. It's spent most of its time in 3rd. In that same stretch of time Honor Among Thieves has been the #1 movie on the same platform for 25 days and was number 2 a dozen more days. Honor Among Thieves has absolutely and thoroughly dominated Mario on iTunes.

On Google it's not even close. Honor Among Thieves has been #1 since June 1st and just never relinquished that lead. Mario entered the top 10 on June 8th and surged to second on June 10, where it still sits staring up at D&D like Forge staring at all his money dropping out of a balloon.

Both are also limited availability on Rakuten and Vudu. Neither have done notably there.

On the three major platforms I'm using worldwide data only for the equal times of availability, with Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves out several weeks before Super Mario Brothers. OnDemand has a clear and complete winner and your link said that realm earned Mario 75 million (link was about ten days old).

You can recreate the above starting here and clicking all the necessary information.


I guess tomorrow's update will be tiny as it will only have one day adjustments for everything but the streaming data
 

And D&D: Honor Among Thieves remains in the top 10 streaming movies, but barely. It falls to 9th place in the USA.

One surprising reason is that Independence Day came in at 7th.

Honor Among Thieves has been available on Paramount+ in the US for 51 days. It has always been in the top 10 during that stretch, sometimes hitting #1. It is now available on Fubu in the USA and Netflix in Canada.

Up in the Great White North it has been available for five days, all at #2.

Everything else from yesterdays on-demand is basically the same except a spike on Vudu taking it to #8 and on Rakuten it's up to #3.
 

Maybe it is not the star of the party among the rest of guests, but as "pilot episode" for a new cinematographic universe hasn't been so bad for Paramount Pictures. Maybe it was a flop for the standars of Disney, but we are talking about Paramount. This needs good brands to compete with the rest of Hollywood producers. Paramount CEOs should be happy with this movie. There are reasons to hope the franchise will make more money in the future.

Maybe China dared to talk with Hasbro to produce a donghua(Chinese animation) for the international market to improve the Chinese "soft power". But then they should be "good children" and not cause troubles in the zone. The neighbours aren't too happy with them.
 

Isn't Mario and John Wick dominating streaming services?

And no the new system isn't more profitable than the old. Everyone's losing money on streaming except Netflix.

And VoD is only a fraction of the old DVD/cable revenue. Similar to how downloading doesn't are as much money as CDs in the 90s.

^THIS^

And yes, Mario and John Wick are dominating.

Here is a site that does VOD rankings:

How about we hold those touting these VOD & Streaming ranking numbers to the same standard Zardnaar was earlier in the thread when we were talking about box office results?

i.e. "We don't believe your metric. Until we see the actual box office numbers, you are just making stuff up."

So:

What are the Vod/Streaming SALES numbers?

What do the rankings mean in Dollars? What is your metric?

Until you can give us those; all you have is a ranking with no context - and no idea whatsoever how that relates to actual income.
 

^THIS^

And yes, Mario and John Wick are dominating.

Here is a site that does VOD rankings:

How about we hold those touting these VOD & Streaming ranking numbers to the same standard Zardnaar was earlier in the thread when we were talking about box office results?

i.e. "We don't believe your metric. Until we see the actual box office numbers, you are just making stuff up."

So:

What are the Vod/Streaming SALES numbers?

What do the rankings mean in Dollars? What is your metric?

Until you can give us those; all you have is a ranking with no context - and no idea whatsoever how that relates to actual income.
I've used that site extensively, including just today!
And, I've used zard's link about Super Mario's on demand earnings in reference to potential income for Honor Among Thieves, while not concocting a magical formula to assess anything.

Also, Super Mario isn't available on streaming, so we do not need to invent its dominance over D&D there.

For supposedly having strict standards the "flop" insisters keep ignoring factual data
 

I've used that site extensively, including just today!
And, I've used zard's link about Super Mario's on demand earnings in reference to potential income for Honor Among Thieves, while not concocting a magical formula to assess anything.

Also, Super Mario isn't available on streaming, so we do not need to invent its dominance over D&D there.

For supposedly having strict standards the "flop" insisters keep ignoring factual data

John Wick and Mario are ahead of HAT and came out at similar time (a week apart).

It seems D&D did well for a few weeks and then got beaten.
 

And, I've used zard's link about Super Mario's on demand earnings in reference to potential income for Honor Among Thieves

An apples and oranges reference at best.

The rankings have no monetary context.

You are taking the VOD revenue of a 1.3billion mega-hit, and trying to infer a correlation via rankings to a film with far less audience pull, that fell short around 100m in its box office run.


For supposedly having strict standards the "flop" insisters keep ignoring factual data

Then supply some.

What do the rankings mean in Dollars?

What are the Vod/Streaming SALES numbers of Mario vs. HaT?

What Data are you using to extrapolate VOD ranking to sales dollars?
 

An apples and oranges reference at best.

The rankings have no monetary context.

You are taking the VOD revenue of a 1.3billion mega-hit, and trying to infer a correlation via rankings to a film with far less audience pull, that fell short around 100m in its box office run.




Then supply some.

What do the rankings mean in Dollars?

What are the Vod/Streaming SALES numbers of Mario vs. HaT?

What Data are you using to extrapolate VOD ranking to sales dollars?
My statement about your lack of factual data was your mythology in regards to Super Mario's streaming power. It's not streaming yet.
But you still declare it superior to Honor Among Thieves. You then misquote and misreference me in order to make me look a fool. The context was clear.
 

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