D&D Movie/TV D&D Movie Hit or Flop?

[Zardnaar]

I've seen the movie twice now and I didn't get even a hint of that when I watched it.

I dont think it's a big reason. Didn't even get review bombed.

Maybe that was the problem. Indifference worse than review bombing.

 

[FrogReaver]

Movie doesn’t appear to be going to hit 200m international box office. Closer to 160m.

80 million or so. Double that for for streaming/tv/dvd equivalent and we are at about 160M which is still far off from ad and production budgets 200-250M. Merchandising helps, but it’s hard to see it as helping that much.

I think the movie likely loses money overall or at some point in the distant future limps to a tiny profit.

There’s a chance this is wrong it might be the biggest streaming and dvd/tv* success in a decade but it’s doubtful.

Unlike @Zardnaar and the others though I am taking into account the other revenue streams by estimation.

 

[payn]

Might actually be a problem copying the GotG formula. That was ten years ago grown stale MCU seems to be in the doldrums as well.

I dont think that is the issue. Most audience and critics like the film. I think its more likely it was sandwiched between things people really know and really like (Wick, Mario). Nobody (outside D&D core fans and even then...) really knows what D&D is exactly. There are so many settings, monsters, etc... There is nothing folks can point to and say "yeap, D&D". It just comes off as generic fantasy. Which is why I think the series have more potential to build the identity.

 

[bedir than]

Closer to 160m.

It's already at 157 worldwide. Domestic expectations are for 100 with international at about 125 for a worldwide of 225.

 

[FrogReaver]

It's already at 157 worldwide. Domestic expectations are for 100 with international at about 125 for a worldwide of 225.

I think at this point those estimations are overstated.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Oh, we're doing this again?

Also, apparently Justice Smith isn't even worthy of offhand insults.

 

[bedir than]

I think at this point those estimations are overstated.

The estimates pre launch were too low. The floor estimate of weekend two were too severe. The expectation for international weekend two were also too low.

The industry magazines expected Honor Among Thieves to be a clear flop. Instead it's hovering in the middle ground

 

[FrogReaver]

The estimates pre launch were too low. The floor estimate of weekend two were too severe. The expectation for international weekend two were also too low.

The industry magazines expected Honor Among Thieves to be a clear flop. Instead it's hovering in the middle ground

You said it would hit 225 million. I said that estimate seems too high given the current state.

I got no dog in the race about any other projections.

 

[mamba]

Might actually be a problem copying the GotG formula. That was ten years ago grown stale MCU seems to be in the doldrums as well.

guess we will see once GotG3 is out

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

There is a difference between "no so good as we wanted" and "a failure".

Even if the movie was a relative failure in short term there are reasons to hope it a succes in long term.

Of course they wanted to get a lot of incomes but the true goal was to promote the brand, and thanks the movie, that will become more valious.

Before you have to create enough prestige and popularity for the IP, and later this will give true incomes.

Paramount could be driven to produce an animated epic fantasy for Nickelodeon. For example a relatively kid-friendly version (or spiritual succesor) of Dark Sun.

And Netflix could talk with Hasbro for an animated adaptation of Gamma World or Star*Drive/Star Frontiers/d20 Future.

I hope this movie helped to open new doors for the franchise.

The incomes are going to arrive later Paramount wanted, but there are some external circustances. It is not fault by movie itself.