Daggerheart has been Officially Released

[Theory of Games]

That last guy you linked did his review right after he did his unboxing review. He hadn't even read the book yet. So it's really a playtest review. He also ordered the limited set, and then spends time complaining that it came with "stuff" that only the limited set came with.
- He's the guy who went into McDonalds, saw a burger meal and a happy meal, stated that he hated meals that came with toys, and the bought the happy meal - then wrote a review slamming it for having a toy... when the 'burger meal' was a regular meal and $100 cheaper.

You're literally profiling people because you don't like their reviews The reality is everyone doesn't like the game. Not the end of the world

 

[Kichwas]

Haven't watched all these. But at least they're not done before even reading the thing like some of the day one's:





I think this guy will have the most value for D&Ders IF he does another video with a 'now that I've played it even more' followup. He's a player, he's not been following things, and he got to play it. So I'm looking to see if he does any followup stuff:

This one is biased - in favor. Why? The two even state that they know the Daggerheart team and have worked with them, so they tell folks it's not really a review, more of a 'gushing over something' with commentary:

 

[Kichwas]

This one might be interesting. How good are the digital tools:

Daggerheart is in a rough position of competing with two very different fan bases.

They need to meet expectations of people coming from D&DBeyond, and of people coming from the independent hobby scene where we have things like Foundry, Pathbuilder, and a mix of either free or monetized tools.

Demiplane means they're leaning more towards the D&DBeyond crowd "I think" (I have never used D&DBeyond, only heard about what it has).

I don't like that. But I gather it will make the larger side of their audience feel comfortable. If done right. I don't think most people will want to maintain subs and bought products on BOTH Demiplane and D&DBeyond... and I think that's one reason a game like Pathfinder 2E has been so open to free digital tools and getting it's money elsewhere.

But we'll see. I'm half posting this one to 'bookmark' it, and half to see what others think of the analysis of their digital tools thus far.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

How good are the digital tools:

< leaning forwards angrily over his table, talking in Estuary accent > I'll tell you what isn't good mate! That's bloody readability of the character sheet on Demiplane! That's what!

Look at this:

Argh my eyes! There's no like "Don't have violently clashing blurple and gold", there's no "day mode", no "simple mode", nothing at all. You can, at best, print the sheet out and that PDF is more simple (took me a while to find the option for that but does exist). However it's also messed-up in that it goes off the page a bit and stuff, even with the pre-gens like this one.

Hell, not to get too fancy about it either, but this is downright anti-disability, anti-neurodiversity - there needs to be a way to make display without clashing bright colours and bloody gradients and so on! Like, don't make a site so extreme I'm frickin' both wanting to use my coloured overlay to read it more easily and yet can't because the text is in all sorts of different colours on different backgrounds!

Re: leaning D&D Beyond-ish? You're 100% correct, that is the direction, but they're kind of screwing it up, because Beyond has a much more together and calmer look, and has actual options.

Like, look at this:

That's ridiculously better. It's insanely calmer and easier to read.

This extends to stuff like the online version of the rules, which works like how Beyond does it, but there are two issues as compared to the PDF:

1) It looks like cheap HTML whereas Beyond's books look pretty slick.

2) It's got different text! Like a least a couple of headings literally had different words - so I presume it's not quite 100% up to date with the PDF, which I know is up to date because Darrington said it was!

I haven't watched the video yet but may later.

All this said, I don't hate Demiplane - they're working in the right direction for my money - they're just really not there yet! But I am glad the game has an online character builder at all.

 

[Kichwas]

< leaning forwards angrily over his table, talking in Estuary accent > I'll tell you what isn't good mate! That's bloody readability of the character sheet on Demiplane! That's what!

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Argh my eyes!

All this said, I don't hate Demiplane - they're working in the right direction for my money - they're just really not there yet! But I am glad the game has an online character builder at all.

Heh. Yeah we're getting older. I can't paint the individual nose hairs on my 20mm dwarf mini with a regular brush and no magnifier anymore. Those days are long gone.

Don't make the screen scream at me.

I'm with you there.

 

[Wofano Wotanto]

@beta-ray is just making a terrible groany pun. Investment.

Really? Do tell. And what did you think vested interest was?

 

[Kichwas]

I like this guy's short breakdown: