D&D General Dark Places & Demogorgons for OSE: An Interview with Eric Bloat

Dark Places & Demogorgons is a great RPG of 80s kids fighting horrors in their hometown. Currently it uses Survive This!!, an old school game engine, but the next version is for Old-School Essentials (D&D Basic/D&D Expert). Eric Bloat, the creator of DP&D, was kind enough to talk to me about his new project coming to Kickstarter in October.

A few updates from Eric: The Cryptid Manual IS going to be offered AND the Old-School Essentials Classic Fantasy Rules Tome will be available, too.

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Charles Dunwoody (CD): What prompted you to bring Dark Places & Demogorgons to a new game engine?
Eric Bloat (EB):
It’s funny, SURVIVE THIS!! is definitely an OSR game system. However, we’ve had a ton of people who play OSR games, say they’d love to play DP&D but don’t want to have to learn a new system. So, really it was that coupled with the fact that I am a HUGE fan of what Necrotic Gnome did with the B/X rules set for Old-School Essentials. To me it was, the perfect coupling.

CD: Old-School Essentials Core Rulebook is hard to find in print. Will this kickstarter offer copies of the core rules to go with Dark Places & Demogorgons?
EB:
Yes, we hope to. We’ve reached out to the US distributer and are just awaiting confirmation.

CD: For current DP&D fans, will there be any new surprises in the latest version? And will other DP&D supplements get ported to OSE?
EB:
Surprises? No. I don’t think so. With the OSE version, we’re really trying to do a greatest hits of the DP&D line, all into one book. As far as supplements, I never say never, but aside from the possibility of The Cryptid Manual getting a straight up conversion, that’s it. We do have plans for several DP&D adventures, kind of like what Necrotic Gnome did for OSE, but no expansions like the SURVIVE THIS!! DP&D series.

CD: The classes in Survive This!! are rich in mechanical options and grounded in the setting Any details you’d like to share on new classes or other rules for the OSE version of Dark Places & Demogorgons?
EB:
I don’t want to give away too many spoilers before the Kickstarter, but trust me when I tell you, that DP&D OSE, when used with OSE core rules, will give you everything you need to create characters and run adventures in a 1980s setting. We’re talking new classes, spells, equipment, monsters, and more, all while staying 100% mechanically compatible with the whole B/X based game systems.

CD: What goodies will be available in the upcoming October kickstarter for OSE Dark Places & Demogorgons?
EB:
There will be Dark Places & Demogorgons available in a Standard and Kickstarter Exclusive cover featuring art by Runehammer, and of course this will be available in print and digital options. Also, available as add-ons, there will be T-shirts of each cover available in sizes S-3XL. Then for stretch goals, of which there will be plenty, we will be unlocking adventures by some of the biggest names in the RPG industry!

CD: If DP&D is successful on kickstarter, are you planning to bring any other RPGs to OSE? I know I’d enjoy an OSE version of SURVIVE THIS!! Vigilante City.
EB:
It’s possible for sure! We really hope this is a big hit, and would like to do future conversions. But of course, it all depends on the reception from the OSE community, which so far, has been warm and welcoming.

CD: Where can fans go to find your work?
EB:
www.bloatgames.com is the best place to find us, but really, we’re everywhere you’d expect us to be: Facebook, Twitter, DriveThruRPG, Amazon, Discord, etc.

CD: Any final comments you’d like to share with the readers of EN World?
EB:
Thanks for reading, and we hope to see you as part of this campaign in October!
 
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Charles Dunwoody

Charles Dunwoody



Eric, if you're reading this, are there any plans for more videogame monster books or compilations of all you've gotten so far?

I'd love to also see classic era PC game monsters included, like from Wizardry, Bard's Tale and the Ultima series.
 

Von Ether

Legend
The combination of theme and rules does have a certain poetry to it, but for me SURVIVE THIS!! Vigilante City for OSE is a bit ironic on several levels, even more so than Mutants & Masterminds.

Both games prove that many players have a weird comfort zone. They would rather "reread" a chonky set of rules that are so modified they are actually reading a new game that only shares a few terms with their favorite game.

SURVIVE THIS!! is a great OSR engine on it's on to boot, so to me, so making an official OSE seems more like duplicate effort.

This is not knocking Eric's great work or his business savvy to bring more customers in. But the overall situation seems odd. But then again #NoBadWrongFun
 

I don't think it's a weird comfort zone. I only have months of experience running Survive This!!! games but I have decades of experience running D&D. OSE will be easier for me to run on autopilot then Survive This!!! and sometimes I don't have the bandwidth to really lean into a newer ruleset. Sometimes I just want the ease and knowledge of running D&D but I don't want to play D&D. OSE DP&D fully fits what I'm looking for but rarely find which is a game that works with D&D but in a totally different setting.

OSE sets out to allow for this and Gavin, the author of OSE, saw it being adapted to other genres and games. This makes perfect sense from what he wanted to eventually see happen with the rules.
 

Von Ether

Legend
I don't think it's a weird comfort zone. I only have months of experience running Survive This!!! games but I have decades of experience running D&D. OSE will be easier for me to run on autopilot then Survive This!!! and sometimes I don't have the bandwidth to really lean into a newer ruleset. Sometimes I just want the ease and knowledge of running D&D but I don't want to play D&D. OSE DP&D fully fits what I'm looking for but rarely find which is a game that works with D&D but in a totally different setting.

OSE sets out to allow for this and Gavin, the author of OSE, saw it being adapted to other genres and games. This makes perfect sense from what he wanted to eventually see happen with the rules.

Which is totally valid. In my own weird comfort zone the whole OSR covers that D&D but not D&D vibe; Games like Stars Without Number 1e and Warriors of the Red Planet.
 

Vincent55

Villager
I backed OSE and am waiting for the books to be delivered, i liked 2nd edition back in the day and played 1st, but both had their own issues. With OSE i think they have polished it up to the best and fixed many of the older issues from what i have read. Any way can't wait, and i am seriously thinking of backing this at some point
 



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