D&D (2024) Do you like the Purple Dragon Knight Subclass?

[Weiley31]

I don't mind the fiction and like pet classes in general. Just give it better scaling and not be useless and I'm golden.

 

[WanderingMystic]

Why?

As far as a mounted fighter the paladin gets a mount at lvl 5 that they can ride and that can dash, dodge or disengage for free with a 60ft movement. The drakewarden gets a dragon that has a great breath weapon but only at a higher level, it gets a better rend and it gets its resistances at an earlier level.

Due to the fact that different core class gets better abilities earlier and other subclasses do the same job but better I consider this one a fall.

1. Some things I would do, at lvl 3 start off your dragon as a medium creature that you can ride, give the breath weapon damage instead of a push pull effect.
2. move rallying surge to lvl 7,
3. At lvl 10 let the dragon grow to large size, let them fly as a mount, increased movement, increase the rend damage and give them the shared action surge.

 

[Jeremy E Grenemyer]

Do you like the Purple Dragon Knight Subclass?

Using WotCs grading system.

No.

 

[Jeremy E Grenemyer]

It’s only a retcon if it changes the past. Changes in the present are a development.

Interesting point of view.

Regarding the PDK: as written it's a big fat retcon.

 

[MechaTarrasque]

Dragon riders of Pern if you make it long enough.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Interesting point of view.

Regarding the PDK: as written it's a big fat retcon.

We need the context, it's frustrating without it. Can't know if it's a retcon or a development or even a result of time travel.

 

[Parmandur]

We need the context, it's frustrating without it. Can't know if it's a retcon or a development or even a result of time travel.

They are juat testing the mechanics, not the lore.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Interesting point of view.

Regarding the PDK: as written it's a big fat retcon.

No it is not. It says what the Purple Dragons are NOW. All it says about their history is that they were originally founded in Cormyr, which in no way contradicts existing lore.

 

[Jeremy E Grenemyer]

No it is not. It says what the Purple Dragons are NOW. All it says about their history is that they were originally founded in Cormyr, which in no way contradicts existing lore.

Heh.

A “Knight” in Cormyr is a least noble rank that’s awarded on an individual basis. There are individual Purple Dragons who’ve earned the rank of Knight. (There are non-Purple Dragons who’ve earned it, too.)

However, there’s no such thing as a “Purple Dragon Knight.” There are no chivalric orders among the Purple Dragons and there never has been.

The Purple Dragons don’t recruit outside of Cormyr.

The Purple Dragons have never ridden dragons. As I’ve noted elsewhere, Cormyreans freak out when dragons are sighted in the sky. Especially purple ones.

The UA text flips the history of the Purple Dragons on its head and invents an entire population of ultra rare dragons out of nowhere.

Worst of all, the UA text pretends the founding treaties that formed Cormyr don’t exist.

The UA text is a big fat retcon.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

A “Knight” in Cormyr is a least noble rank that’s awarded on an individual basis. There are individual Purple Dragons who’ve earned the rank of Knight. (There are non-Purple Dragons who’ve earned it, too.)

However, there’s no such thing as a “Purple Dragon Knight.” There are no chivalric orders among the Purple Dragons and there never has been.

The Purple Dragons don’t recruit outside of Cormyr

All this is talking about THE PAST. Things CHANGE. Organisations go international. Foreigners can be knighted for diplomatic reasons. What things do not do is stay the same. Irrespective of this subclass, Cormyr is going to have changed because it is being updated in the new setting book (and many years have passed).

The Purple Dragons have never ridden dragons

Until now.