D&D (2024) Do you like the Purple Dragon Knight Subclass?

[Jeremy E Grenemyer]

All this is talking about THE PAST. Things CHANGE. Organisations go international. Foreigners can be knighted for diplomatic reasons. What things do not do is stay the same. Irrespective of this subclass, Cormyr is going to have changed because it is being updated in the new setting book (and many years have passed).

lol

fyi: writing in all caps doesn’t strengthen an argument.

And this is playtest content. Not official content. The Purple Dragons aren’t riding amethyst dragons. Hopefully they never will.

Let’s skip over your erroneous mischaracterization of current events in Cormyr, current Cormyrean law and customs, and the current military organization of the Purple Dragons for a moment so I can ask a question: who said things can’t change in the Realms?

I certainly didn’t.

(I’ve noticed lately that the fallback position for people who support this version of the PDK is to strawman anyone who points out how ridiculous it is, by claiming the lore readers “don’t want change” or want things to “stay the same” (in so many words).)

There are much better ways to achieve what WotC is aiming for than to flip Cormyr on its head.

If they’re insistent on achieving this goal (dragon riding subclass) through Cormyr, then it’s time for them to reach back into the Forest Kingdom’s deep history to figure out how this is all going to work.

(And it would be relatively easy. Thauglor the Black Doom had more than one lair, after all. It’s not beyond reason to think THE Purple Dragon of old kept other rare dragons as treasure or to experiment on.)

Otherwise WotC aren’t writing for the Realms, they’re writing a generic sourcebook and slapping the Realms logo on it.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

If they’re insistent on achieving this goal (dragon riding subclass) through Cormyr

You are assuming the subclass was the goal. But the Cormyr section of the book was almost certainly written first. The subclass written to reflect the new lore (which is TBC years after the last update). Given that each section is intended to reflect different types of adventure, and Cormyr will probably be Knights and Chivalry, it’s inevitable that the changes will reflect a modern take on the theme. For example, promotion to knighthood through merit, irrespective of origin.

 

[Jeremy E Grenemyer]

But the Cormyr section of the book was almost certainly written first.

I was not aware that Cormyr was on the list of places the new sourcebooks would update.

Are you inferring that Cormyr is to be updated or do you have a link or source that confirms this definitively?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I was not aware that Cormyr was on the list of places the new sourcebooks would update.

Are you inferring that Cormyr is to be updated or do you have a link or source that confirms this definitively?

It’s in the big announcement thread, give me a minute to make a link.LinkD&D Adds Two New Books to 2025 Slate, Including New Eberron Book

Beg your pardon, it doesn’t directly mention Cormyr, but it seems to be incorporated into the Dalelands (hence the mention of Dalelands locations for the PDK).

 

[Jeremy E Grenemyer]

It’s in the big announcement thread, give me a minute to make a link.LinkD&D Adds Two New Books to 2025 Slate, Including New Eberron Book

Thank you.

 

[Horwath]

This UA survey is complete crap format.

cannot write comments if you mark the feature Green or Red, only Yellow.
If I mark something Red, I have more to say than if I mark it Yellow.

 

[NaturalZero]

I'd like a fighter that gets a dragon if the drakewarden never existed but since it does/did, I'd rather have the dragon pet class get that protected niche, especially since this PDK is pigeon-holed into one specific type of dragon. I agree with those saying that we should just get a warlord/bannerette subclass that focuses on leadership and group buffs while leaving dragon pets to the dragon pet class we still have yet to update.

 

[pukunui]

This UA survey is complete crap format.

cannot write comments if you mark the feature Green or Red, only Yellow.
If I mark something Red, I have more to say than if I mark it Yellow.

Agreed. This survey is just a "vibe check". They don't want to know what we think. No option for me to say "Purple Dragon Knight is OK but change the name!"

For the spellfire sorcery one, I rated the initial feature yellow and then told them I wanted them to revisit spellfire as supernatural gifts rather than as a subclass since not all spellfire users are spellcasters (e.g. the OG spellfire user, Shandril)!

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I wanted them to revisit spellfire as supernatural gifts

That’s quite obviously something WotC would never do.

 

[pukunui]

That’s quite obviously something WotC would never do.

Doesn't hurt to ask! I mean, supernatural gifts are still part of the game!

I've got the playtest version, so I can still use those in my home games. It sure would be nice if they added supernatural gifts as a feature in DDB.