Dungeon 140, 141 and 142 have no FR or Eberron content

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takasi said:
I guess it's all about pandering to the lowest common denominator. Why go through the trouble of offering 31 flavors when you can stick with vanilla? After all, if anyone complains that vanilla is boring you can always tell them to go home and add their own toppings.

But if that's the case, why go out and buy their ice cream at all? No matter how good their vanilla is the toppings you add will be what really matters. You might as well go with any old vanilla if that's the case. Or better yet, make your own dessert...

Well, to take your analogy further...

They're not offering 31 flavors. They're offering one (triple-scoop) ice-cream cone per month. Their business model doesn't allow them to change that.

Their market research, and sales data, have shown them that too much rocky road, or mint chocolate chip, or Cherry Garcia, in the ice cream cone leads to fewer people buying it.

Now, that doesn't make you, Mr. Rocky Road Lover, particularly happy, but it does mean they can keep selling ice-cream cones, and mix in some rocky road from time to time.
 

kilamanjaro said:
It's a lot easier for you to add chocolate to the vanilla than it is for me to take it out.

If I have to add chocolate then why should I buy it in the first place? There's more than enough vanilla. Hundreds if not thousands of places to get vanilla.

It's also easier for you to add salt to french fries than to take it out. Must EVERYTHING be plain to accommodate those who can't handle flavor?
 

kenobi65 said:
They're not offering 31 flavors. They're offering one (triple-scoop) ice-cream cone per month. Their business model doesn't allow them to change that.

To be more accurate, they're offering three flavors a month, all of which are vanilla.

Hmmm, should I pick french, ole or original? Decisions, decisions...

kenobi65 said:
Their market research, and sales data, have shown them that too much rocky road, or mint chocolate chip, or Cherry Garcia, in the ice cream cone leads to fewer people buying it.

Finding successful new flavors takes risk. As long as there's always some vanilla to fall back you should be safe. It seem like they would rather not take any risk at all, which is kind of sad.

kenobi65 said:
Now, that doesn't make you, Mr. Rocky Road Lover, particularly happy, but it does mean they can keep selling ice-cream cones, and mix in some rocky road from time to time.

It doesn't help that the store owners are allergic to peanuts and are lactose intolerant. Vanilla soy for everyone! :D
 

takasi said:
If I have to add chocolate then why should I buy it in the first place?
So don't. Ignore the vanilla if it bothers you so much and when they sell chocolate from time to time buy that. Problem solved.

Also, vanilla is my favourite flavour, so quit dissing it.
 

I am very happy with the current focus of both Dungeon and Dragon, so I hope they keep up doing what they are doing. I just renewed for another year's subscription with both magazines this month.
 

Dr. Awkward said:
So don't. Ignore the vanilla if it bothers you so much and when they sell chocolate from time to time buy that. Problem solved.

Also, vanilla is my favourite flavour, so quit dissing it.

I also like vanilla, but there's no way anyone can eat so much of it. It would take several lifetimes of eating morning, noon and night to digest the vast quantity of vanilla that's already available...
 

takasi said:
I guess it's all about pandering to the lowest common denominator. Why go through the trouble of offering 31 flavors when you can stick with vanilla? After all, if anyone complains that vanilla is boring you can always tell them to go home and add their own toppings.

So are you saying that if I prefer the generic settings that I'm the lowest common denominator? Because If that is what youre saying that's pretty insulting.
 

takasi said:
If I have to add chocolate then why should I buy it in the first place? There's more than enough vanilla. Hundreds if not thousands of places to get vanilla.

It's also easier for you to add salt to french fries than to take it out. Must EVERYTHING be plain to accommodate those who can't handle flavor?

In a marketplace that was big enough to support more than one ice-cream cone a month, that wouldn't be the case. But, unfortunately, it's not big enough.

And, in a universe where more people don't want salt than those who do, if you can only offer one item, it's gonna be the salt-free one.

(switching out of the analogy)

If Dungeon's sales were big enough that they could spin off an Eberron-only mag and a FR-only mag, you'd be in hog heaven. The simple fact is, they're not. Everything needs to be able to live in that one monthly mag. (And, remember that, a couple of years ago, sales were so weak that they considered pulling the plug.)

And, as the Dungeon staff has noted any number of times...too much setting-specific content weakens their sales.
 

ShinHakkaider said:
So are you saying that if I prefer the generic settings that I'm the lowest common denominator? Because If that is what youre saying that's pretty insulting.

There's always a lowest common denominator. Not sure why you find that insulting but it is true. Three times in a row Paizo has chosen to go with what the majority can stomach in every article rather than take any risks to create something exotic that might not into every round hole.

Pleasing the majority is fine, but there should always be some consideration for the minority. Three times in a row they have chosen to snub them completely.
 

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