Nac Mac Feegle
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You should bear in mind that most giants have an ECL nearly at 20, so you'd only get a few class levels.
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[Epic 20] Diablos Ex Machina
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OnlytheStrong
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I want to play an Ogre! lol, I spent like the whole time looking for a monster type that would be interesting to play, but have a LA of less than 5. Ogre's LA is +2, which I can live with. Apparently he'll be real strong, but slow and stupid lol. Should make for interesting RP I would think.
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Nac Mac Feegle
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Don't forget the racial HD. Ogres work out to ECL 6, I believe. You could still slap 14 levels of PC on top, though.
Oh, and Eidelac: I'm just checking the mechanics of the stat bonuses offered in those 20 level race progressions you listed: would those only apply to physical stats in base form or would they carry over to whatever I was shaped like at the time?
Oh, and Eidelac: I'm just checking the mechanics of the stat bonuses offered in those 20 level race progressions you listed: would those only apply to physical stats in base form or would they carry over to whatever I was shaped like at the time?
OnlytheStrong
Explorer
Would the ECL change for an ogre since the stats changed? Instead of +10 to strength it's now +4. I may just go with a human after all. No point in letting 6 levels go to waste lol.
Nac Mac Feegle
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Where are you getting +4 strength for ogres? Are you possibly confusing them with Orcs?
OnlytheStrong
Explorer
LOL yeah I did read the Orc line! I imagine ogre would be similar to orcs with how they progress, but could be way off.
Shayuri:
Sounds interesting. I can see a possible scenario - having sterilized your own world, you eventually discovered a means of planar travel only to be confronted with the shear scale of the planes. With your current configuration, you calculated that life could recolonize areas faster than you could sterilize them, and that's not even taking into account the possibility of resistance.
I need to dig up my variant 'ageless' aging rules I made for characters who don't suffer aging penalties. Basically, it replaces the aging stat bonuses with extra skill points, so it's possible to play something truly ancient without having imbalanced stats.
Nac:
Fractional bonuses look ok for me.
As for the bonuses, I'm probably going to make them all just +1 in place of +2, but they are treated just like level increase stats, so they would work with shapeshifting just like normal, base stats.
OnlytheStrong:
Pure fighter. I like pure fighters.
As for Ogre... I'll allow it.
And don't worry about the LA; just the Racial HD. With the racial bonuses I'll be using, the trade off is that something like an Ogre will get weaker/less bonuses than a 'normal' race.
Sounds interesting. I can see a possible scenario - having sterilized your own world, you eventually discovered a means of planar travel only to be confronted with the shear scale of the planes. With your current configuration, you calculated that life could recolonize areas faster than you could sterilize them, and that's not even taking into account the possibility of resistance.
I need to dig up my variant 'ageless' aging rules I made for characters who don't suffer aging penalties. Basically, it replaces the aging stat bonuses with extra skill points, so it's possible to play something truly ancient without having imbalanced stats.
Nac:
Fractional bonuses look ok for me.
As for the bonuses, I'm probably going to make them all just +1 in place of +2, but they are treated just like level increase stats, so they would work with shapeshifting just like normal, base stats.
OnlytheStrong:
Pure fighter. I like pure fighters.
As for Ogre... I'll allow it.
And don't worry about the LA; just the Racial HD. With the racial bonuses I'll be using, the trade off is that something like an Ogre will get weaker/less bonuses than a 'normal' race.
Nac Mac Feegle
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Well to be perfectly honest I won't be using my mental stats too much - I'm only casting as a Druid 5, I'm a combat primary - so the ageless thing is mainly for flavor.
As for the stat bumps, I'll probably end up putting everything in mental stats (for the little good it'll do me on skill checks etc.) since I'll be spending almost all my time in alternate forms (between Warshaper and Master of Many Forms I'll have something like 220 hours of wild shape a day and the ability to swap forms while wild shaped without spending a new use).
As for the stat bumps, I'll probably end up putting everything in mental stats (for the little good it'll do me on skill checks etc.) since I'll be spending almost all my time in alternate forms (between Warshaper and Master of Many Forms I'll have something like 220 hours of wild shape a day and the ability to swap forms while wild shaped without spending a new use).
Cool idea...confronted with the infinite planes, it would have to rethink its objectives.
As for the ageless thing, I wasn't thinking of getting bonuses. I figure it probably spent a good long time on a blasted rock of a world, not really learning anything new or doing anything to merit bonuses. It wasn't until it somehow got into the planes that it started learning from new experiences again...
As for the ageless thing, I wasn't thinking of getting bonuses. I figure it probably spent a good long time on a blasted rock of a world, not really learning anything new or doing anything to merit bonuses. It wasn't until it somehow got into the planes that it started learning from new experiences again...
OnlytheStrong
Explorer
I'm trying to get an image of the Ogre in my head before I do anything else. I keep coming back to the "thought-smash" concept. I'd like it to be alittle more involved than that, but I'm thinking he could just be a big bully. Smashes the entire room, then shrugs Food sucked
