D&D 5E Everybody's got to have a Patron deity. Where did it come from?

[Ilbranteloth]

Again, thank you for proving my point. Implying is not Requiring. Just because you ass-u-med something doesn't make it right.

But why does it even matter if it's some rule said it was recommended, required, or implied anyway? This is D&D, every table runs the way it wants to run and uses the rules it wants to use.

It matters not at all.

I was simply answering the question of the original post: "Everybody's got to have a Patron diety. Where did it come from?"

It came from Deities & Demigods in 1980 which required everybody to have one, and not the Forgotten Realms (published in 1987) as others have stated.

Deities & Demigods was released by TSR as a core book, and thus it was techincally RAW at the time. However, because of the nature of the book, and the fact that not everybody bought every book, for a great many people that probably never occurred.

 

[Azzy]

By the time of 5e, the Players Handbook freezes out DM choice of monotheism; polytheism is totalitarian, and there are insufficient safety valves.

That's bollocks.

 

[Azzy]

I'll just note that while the PHB is fairly all-in on the polytheism bit, the DMG has quite a lot of discussion about how you may vary the default setup in your own setting. Check pages 10-13. This includes both monotheism, dualism, animism, and forces/philosophy.

I'm glad I'm not the only person that noticed that.

 

[Azzy]

I want a have a comprehensive set of playable D&D 5e rules − that dont refer to polytheism in any way, shape, or form.

So, in essence, you want to foist your anti-polytheism onto everyone else. It's not that you can't play D&D without polytheism (the DMG even mentions doing so), it's that you have an anti-polytheistic agenda.

 

[schnee]

In some editions, there's a spot for it on your character sheet. If you weren't supposed to fill in something, then it wouldn't be there.

Oh, I guess I have to fill in Arcane Recovery even though I'm a fighter.

Thanks!

PS - oh, wait... "None" is an option? Sweet!

 

[schnee]

By the time of 5e, the Players Handbook freezes out DM choice of monotheism; polytheism is totalitarian, and there are insufficient safety valves.

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"totalitarian"? "safety valves"?

Are you sure you're emotionally equipped to enjoy a game that has 'suspend disbelief' as the core way to have fun?

 

[The Crimson Binome]

Oh, I guess I have to fill in Arcane Recovery even though I'm a fighter.

What character sheet are you looking at?

 

[Mouseferatu]

I admit, as much as I'm trying, [MENTION=58172]Yaarel[/MENTION], I'm having trouble even getting my mind around this.

I've created monotheistic campaigns, and it required exactly zero rules changes. I just told my players, "This is the religious situation, ignore any references to multiple gods," and that was quite literally the end of it. Clerics just chose domains based on what aspect of the faith they were focused on. I don't understand the problem.

 

[Caliban]

What character sheet are you looking at?

Probably the "Clean Sheet". I use that one, and it does indeed have a space for Arcane Recovery, Sorcery Points, and Spell Slots on the back. Plus spells (I use the spells section for things like ki powers and Battlemaster abilities if I'm not playing a caster.)

 

[schnee]

What character sheet are you looking at?

That's the point. What sheet are you looking at?

Patron Diety isn't on any official 5E character sheets.

Why are you bringing it up?

There is literally nothing in the 5E books to support the OP's persecution complex, and talking about a field that was on another edition's character sheet (and also fully optional, mind you) is just bizarre.