Flame Blade abuse/legality?

Gwarthkam said:
Clark411:

Btw, it's not keeping up with only 1d8+7 / 1d8+7,

it's keeping up with 1d8+7 / 1d8+7 / 1d8+7 / 1d8+7 / 1d8+7

when he casts Divine power (BAB of fighter + improved TWF) he has 5 attacks with the two flame blades.


Please check that Damage. I was under the impression that Flame blade was 1D4 + level in points.
 

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I'm in the "Flame blades have a 18-20/*2 crit range" camp. And the DM might have been allowed to take Imp Crit or Imp TWF without fulfilling the BAB requirement (thus not being able to use it for two levels without using Divine Power).
 



Darklone said:
I'm in the "Flame blades have a 18-20/*2 crit range" camp. And the DM might have been allowed to take Imp Crit or Imp TWF without fulfilling the BAB requirement (thus not being able to use it for two levels without using Divine Power).

The DM can house rule that the sky is pink for all I care, but that is hardly an appropriate debate in a discussion about the legality per the d&d rules of a certain character/combination of abilities? In a D&D Rules forum?

I myself am wavering on the issue of the Critical Threat Range of the spell in question. It says

from the SRD
The character wields this bladelike beam as if it were a scimitar.

Sounds like a grey area to me. You can interpret it both ways. This is a spell that was obviously never meant to fall into clerical hands... A high level druid isn't going to go to these lengths to try and squeeze this amount of abuse out of this spell.

Moonblade, is a spell limited to Hathran (a weak prestige class from FRCS), or those priests/priestesses with access to the Moon Domain. (and thus a very limited number of these spells per day.
 
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Moonblade, is a spell limited to Hathran (a weak prestige class from FRCS), or those priests/priestesses with access to the Moon Domain. (and thus a very limited number* of these spells per day.

*unless they make a wand...

-Hyp.
 

You still cannot activate a wand unless its in your spell list. Unless your a bard or rogue using use magic device.

Now, Since, you cannot be under the effects of the same spell at the same time. This limits the ability to use two of these spells entirely.

As to being able to empower it. Probably, perfectly fine. Look at the list of spells that cleric is giving up in order to actually cast the empowered flameblade in the first place.
 

green slime:

Thanks for catching the mistakes, this cleric was indeed converted to 3e at level 13. Btw he has Weapon focus [scimitar] and proficiency with it from the War domain. He will choose to drop improved TWF.

Most of the time he don't have time to empower the flame blades.

You're right about the time it takes to prepare it is very seldom that it happens, only before very important battles that he knows is comming. But the fights that our DM lets us prepare for is in my experience also the toughest and most exciting battles, thats why the fighters are worried.

I know it's alot of high level spells for him to burn for a relative little effect, but he is really trying to find a new role for himself as more than an ambulance of "cure whatever" spells. He hates that role. And he can somehow better find motivation for his character by smiting his god's enemies with swords of light (he sees them as lightswords, not flame swords) than running around mending our wounds.

I'm not really interested in making this an issue of house rule balance so for me the two questions I would most like answered at this point is:

1: is it 18-20/x2 or 20/x2 for flame blade?

2: Can you wield two flame blades?

These questions only refer to the spell itself, it shouldn't matter who is wielding the flame blade etc.

Most of the answers I've seen to question 1 have been "I wouldn't allow it", which is reasonable, but I'm looking for a rules based answer.

Thanks for the replies
 


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