Forked from: DM Entitlement...
(Above was respose to Steely Dan's "... I'm seeing a lot of player pleasing/entitlement 3rd Ed rubbish on this thread – wah wah, you should accommodate anything I want!"
I'm curious that (among folks who agree 3x had this vibe), what was the origin of this attitude in 3x. I didn't sense it from the books, but I sure encountered it a lot while DMing. Granted, I grew up on 1st ed and other assorted RPGs where the DM would have to make extra-textual rulings all the time, because the systems were pretty sketchy in many areas. Was there something about 3rd ed's seeming completeness that lead some players to think the DM was just the player who ran the monsters? Was is the large effort that some folks poured into their characters that resulted in them being unwilling to relinquish control during the game? Just a whinier generation of gamers?
Wyrmshadows said:Definately a 3e meme and one that hopefully dies a terribly painful though blessedly rapid death soon. I have been seeing less and less of this attitude probably because it was yanked from WoTC's Meme Life Support System.
Wyrmshadows
(Above was respose to Steely Dan's "... I'm seeing a lot of player pleasing/entitlement 3rd Ed rubbish on this thread – wah wah, you should accommodate anything I want!"
I'm curious that (among folks who agree 3x had this vibe), what was the origin of this attitude in 3x. I didn't sense it from the books, but I sure encountered it a lot while DMing. Granted, I grew up on 1st ed and other assorted RPGs where the DM would have to make extra-textual rulings all the time, because the systems were pretty sketchy in many areas. Was there something about 3rd ed's seeming completeness that lead some players to think the DM was just the player who ran the monsters? Was is the large effort that some folks poured into their characters that resulted in them being unwilling to relinquish control during the game? Just a whinier generation of gamers?