Half Damage and Sneak Attack

[huank]

Hello D&D players of Enworld!

Here I am with another doubt about 4th edition rules.

Last session, the rogue of our party missed one of his daily powers, wich made half damage on a miss. The rogue had combat advantage against his enemy, so he could also deal sneak attack damage which he said that should be complete damage because it wasn't part of the daily power. So the question is: Was the rogue right or the sneak attack damage should deal half damage too?

 

[Oldtimer]

Hello D&D players of Enworld!

Here I am with another doubt about 4th edition rules.

Last session, the rogue of our party missed one of his daily powers, wich made half damage on a miss. The rogue had combat advantage against his enemy, so he could also deal sneak attack damage which he said that should be complete damage because it wasn't part of the daily power. So the question is: Was the rogue right or the sneak attack damage should deal half damage too?

Once per round, when you have combat advantage against an enemy and hit that enemy with an attack that uses a crossbow, a light blade, or a sling, the attack deals extra damage.

The rogue missed, so there would be no sneak attack damage.

 

[Aulirophile]

Hello D&D players of Enworld!

Here I am with another doubt about 4th edition rules.

Last session, the rogue of our party missed one of his daily powers, wich made half damage on a miss. The rogue had combat advantage against his enemy, so he could also deal sneak attack damage which he said that should be complete damage because it wasn't part of the daily power. So the question is: Was the rogue right or the sneak attack damage should deal half damage too?

Well, extra damage is always part of the attack. So if you could apply SA on a miss, it'd still be halved.

But SA specifically requires a hit, so you can never apply it on a miss.

 

[the Jester]

Holy cow, I've overlooked that clause for the entirety of 4e to date.

 

[Legildur]

Holy cow, I've overlooked that clause for the entirety of 4e to date.

Same! I think.

I'm frantically scanning my memory to try and recall whether I had ever inappropriately applied my Rogue's SA damage... I don't think so..... but.....

 

[Mengu]

To answer a more relevant question, if the rogue was weakened, and hence doing half damage, on a hit, he would apply the additional sneak attack damage to the regular total, and then halve the whole sum.

 

[TerraDave]

Did not read mengu right....You can also divide each in half and add:. .5(X+Y)=.5X+.5Y

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Holy cow, I've overlooked that clause for the entirety of 4e to date.

Because in the PHB original printing it was: once per round, when you deal damage i think...

 

[Mouseferatu]

Because in the PHB original printing it was: once per round, when you deal damage i think...

Nope. Just looked it up. It indeed says "if the attack hits."

 

[Fifth Element]

Holy cow, I've overlooked that clause for the entirety of 4e to date.

Yeah, for me the issue only came up two weeks ago, when we discovered the passage in question. I don't recall if it's just never come up (our rogue rarely misses with combat advantage), or if we've been misinterpreting the rule all along.