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Iron DM 2009 - FINAL MATCH - it's over!
- Thread starter Nifft
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phoamslinger
Explorer
I'll be posting a judging tomorrow on the 8th match. it was a hard weekend and I've been mostly recovering from it today.
Radiating Gnome
Adventurer
Okay, R2m2 match will be Wulf vs. Thasmodius. I will post ingredients at Noon EST Today. Wik is alternate, in case either Wulf or Thasmodius bails between now and then.
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CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing (He/They)
An excellent win by InVinoVeritas! I knew I was going down in flames when I read your entry.
Nifft, you had some questions about my entry, and I'll happily answer them. I hope nobody thinks I am whining about the ruling. I got my kiester kicked right and proper.
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You asked about the mummy priest? I suppose the party could grapple the mummy, pin it down, and shove the heart through the dry wrappings and into the mummy's hollow body cavity. Sounds pretty cool, actually. I don't see why the standard rules for grappling and pinning wouldn't apply.
And the final judgment with the heart and the feather and the scale? Yeah, I thought about that...when I got the ingredients, the first thing I did was Google "heart+feather." The Egyptian judgment story is the first thing that comes up.
So I originally had the party travel to the Underworld via the bottomless pit to dispose of the still beating heart of A'nen by weighing it against a feather token. But the adventure didn't really have anything to do with interrupted communications, beetle swarms, or dragon-slaying. And the more I tried to add these in, the more contrived the story felt. ("Oh look! The Underworld is infested with beetles! Who'd have thunk?")
And the finale was really bad. All that work to deliver the heart to Anubis for judgment, only to thwart that judgment by having it sprout into a tree (or be falsely weighed by an anchor, or blown away by a fan) made the whole trip pointless. Unless the party was evil, or the dead mummy was good, in which case they wouldn't be carrying the heart into the Underworld in the first place.
So I lost a lot of time trying to make it work, only to scrap it. I scrambled to write a classic "destroy the lich" adventure instead, and the result was sloppy. One should never be in a hurry when writing anything for 3.5E...it's too easy to make stupid mistakes. Like forgetting to add the size modifier to Hide checks, or forgetting to add a Climb speed. I even misspelled the name of my villain in the title, for crying out loud.
And you are absolutely right, the story is on rails. I had no idea it would have been so obvious...but now that you point it out, wow.
In retrospect, I should have edited out the parts about Pharaoh's word being law even if it is a very important part of Egyptian culture. Because let's be honest: heroes don't like being told what to do. And Hem-netjer should have been written further into the background...he should have been nothing more than a guide.
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Anyhoo. Great win to InVinoVeritas! I knew I was done for when I saw those dragon-devouring beetles. And I love how you strung the feather tokens together. In all, you made excellent use of the ingredients, and mine were just...rushed. I'll be rooting for you in the finals!
Nifft, you had some questions about my entry, and I'll happily answer them. I hope nobody thinks I am whining about the ruling. I got my kiester kicked right and proper.
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You asked about the mummy priest? I suppose the party could grapple the mummy, pin it down, and shove the heart through the dry wrappings and into the mummy's hollow body cavity. Sounds pretty cool, actually. I don't see why the standard rules for grappling and pinning wouldn't apply.
And the final judgment with the heart and the feather and the scale? Yeah, I thought about that...when I got the ingredients, the first thing I did was Google "heart+feather." The Egyptian judgment story is the first thing that comes up.
So I originally had the party travel to the Underworld via the bottomless pit to dispose of the still beating heart of A'nen by weighing it against a feather token. But the adventure didn't really have anything to do with interrupted communications, beetle swarms, or dragon-slaying. And the more I tried to add these in, the more contrived the story felt. ("Oh look! The Underworld is infested with beetles! Who'd have thunk?")
And the finale was really bad. All that work to deliver the heart to Anubis for judgment, only to thwart that judgment by having it sprout into a tree (or be falsely weighed by an anchor, or blown away by a fan) made the whole trip pointless. Unless the party was evil, or the dead mummy was good, in which case they wouldn't be carrying the heart into the Underworld in the first place.
So I lost a lot of time trying to make it work, only to scrap it. I scrambled to write a classic "destroy the lich" adventure instead, and the result was sloppy. One should never be in a hurry when writing anything for 3.5E...it's too easy to make stupid mistakes. Like forgetting to add the size modifier to Hide checks, or forgetting to add a Climb speed. I even misspelled the name of my villain in the title, for crying out loud.
And you are absolutely right, the story is on rails. I had no idea it would have been so obvious...but now that you point it out, wow.
In retrospect, I should have edited out the parts about Pharaoh's word being law even if it is a very important part of Egyptian culture. Because let's be honest: heroes don't like being told what to do. And Hem-netjer should have been written further into the background...he should have been nothing more than a guide.
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Anyhoo. Great win to InVinoVeritas! I knew I was done for when I saw those dragon-devouring beetles. And I love how you strung the feather tokens together. In all, you made excellent use of the ingredients, and mine were just...rushed. I'll be rooting for you in the finals!
Wulf Ratbane
Adventurer
Assuming we still get 48 hours (I have my tabletop group coming over tonite...) then I am not bailing.
Radiating Gnome
Adventurer
R2M2: Wulf vs. Thasmodius, Ingredients Posted
http://www.enworld.org/forum/plots-places/266192-iron-dm-2009-all-matches-3.html#post4976943
http://www.enworld.org/forum/plots-places/266192-iron-dm-2009-all-matches-3.html#post4976943
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Nifft
Penguin Herder
Nobody would think that. Thank you for your thoughts.
Yes, absolutely.
Cheers, -- N
Thasmodious
First Post
Present and ingredients about to be viewed.
Edit: Wow, what a list, those are some insane ingredients. I hope I can do them justice.
Edit: Wow, what a list, those are some insane ingredients. I hope I can do them justice.
