Judgement Day (Full)

[Ferrix]

Oh yeah, might I add, Permanent Emanation: Antimagic Field is pure cheese.

 

[Elocin]

I am currently working on a Good Psion character with a cohort, but upon seeing the Ha-Naga, I might make him evil as OH MY GOD that is one bad-ass critter.

Still going to go with the good Psion and hopefully will have something up by the end of the week. Again my work is getting in the way of my goof off time.

Being as how I am stupid I said in this post that I am working on a Good Psion....But in the first post I posted on here I said was wanting to be an evil guy, so, lets stick with the original post and I will be making an EVIL guy.

(Which quite frankly is a good thing as I hope to not have to ever fight that Ha-Naga, I will just bow down now to her superiority )

 

[Bront]

I must be missing something about the Ha-Naga, as I don't see an ECL for them at all. Granted, I'm using the SRD. I thought they already ruled that if it didn't have a directly printer LA it wasn't allowable (Hense the disallowing of the Paragon template).

 

[Rkhet]

Oh yeah, might I add, Permanent Emanation: Antimagic Field is pure cheese.

Yes, yes it is.

Also, read the description of Master Transmogrifist. Pay attention especially to the lvl 7 and 10 powers.

 

[Ferrix]

I must be missing something about the Ha-Naga, as I don't see an ECL for them at all. Granted, I'm using the SRD. I thought they already ruled that if it didn't have a directly printer LA it wasn't allowable (Hense the disallowing of the Paragon template).

It isn't listed with a level adjustment in the epic level handbook either.

 

[Bialaska]

Bialaska, your save dc's don't seem correct. Shouldn't it be 10 + 25 (charisma) + spell level, for some reason you have an extra 10 there.

I'm going with what the book said. When I analyzed it, it said 33+spell level and when the +intelligence was removed from it, it still left with 20 for some strange reason. Not sure where the 10 are coming from though.

 

[Bialaska]

It isn't listed with a level adjustment in the epic level handbook either.

Epic Level Handbook. Page 156. Listed under CR 22, read over, ECL is 26.

 

[Pyrex]

And Ha-Naga is ECL 26 according to page 156 in Epic level handbook.

Just out of curiosity, as I don't have my books here; is that the 3.0 printing or the revised 3.5 printing? It may explain some of the confusion if people are looking at different editions of the book...

 

[Bialaska]

There's a 3.5 version of the Epic Level Handbook? I've only heard of one version.

 

[Ferrix]

Epic Level Handbook. Page 156. Listed under CR 22, read over, ECL is 26.

However, as Bront noted, there is no listed level adjustment, just like the problem with the paragon template for the mindflayer. It doesn't have a listed level adjustment only a listed ECL, thus he didn't allow the paragon template for the same reason.

I'm going with what the book said. When I analyzed it, it said 33+spell level and when the +intelligence was removed from it, it still left with 20 for some strange reason. Not sure where the 10 are coming from though.

You should always go with the standard calculations of 10 + modifier + spell level when making a character.