Knife of Dreams - SPOILERS!

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(he, him)
Starman said:
The Aelfinn and the Eelfinn (or however they're spelled) are the snakes and foxes-the creatures that live through the twisted doorway ter'angreals. One group answered questions, the others gave Mat his ashandarei, memories, and then hung him.
Oh I see. I knew who the Aelfinn and Eelfinn were, I just didn't make the connection. :D


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Ashrem Bayle

Explorer
Something that occured to me reading the last book...

I think Moradin may betray the Dark One:

1. Way back in the beginning, in the prologue to Eye of the World, Ishamael offered Lews Therin a chance to join him, and together they would destroy the Dark One forever.

2. Ishamael has been spun out of the Bore hundreds or thousands of times, witnesssing the cycles each time. He tells Rand that the cycles has been repreating itself over and over again for thousands of years, and he is sick of it. I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but Rand had a sage/advisor that believed the same thing, and he believed that this time something was different, Rand could break the cycle. Unfortunatly, he was killed before Rand could talk to him about it.

3. Moradin saved Rand's life when fighting Sammael. Why would he do that?

Just some random thoughts. Moradin uses the True Power exclusivly now, which is supposed to bind you the the Dark One even farther, but a lot of things just aren't adding up with him.
 

Belen

Hero
Ashrem Bayle said:
Something that occured to me reading the last book...

I think Moradin may betray the Dark One:

1. Way back in the beginning, in the prologue to Eye of the World, Ishamael offered Lews Therin a chance to join him, and together they would destroy the Dark One forever.

2. Ishamael has been spun out of the Bore hundreds or thousands of times, witnesssing the cycles each time. He tells Rand that the cycles has been repreating itself over and over again for thousands of years, and he is sick of it. I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but Rand had a sage/advisor that believed the same thing, and he believed that this time something was different, Rand could break the cycle. Unfortunatly, he was killed before Rand could talk to him about it.

3. Moradin saved Rand's life when fighting Sammael. Why would he do that?

Just some random thoughts. Moradin uses the True Power exclusivly now, which is supposed to bind you the the Dark One even farther, but a lot of things just aren't adding up with him.


Personally, I think they are fated to seal the bore as if it has never been created.
 

Ashrem Bayle

Explorer
BelenUmeria said:
Personally, I think they are fated to seal the bore as if it has never been created.

Maybe this requires the True Power, if it does, it makes sense that Moridan would have to gain the favor of the DO, so he could use it. But the DO can cut him off from it at any time, so who knows?
 

Aaron L

Hero
iwatt said:
Actually that would be cool,but I think the only ones that know, IIRC are Hurin, Mat, Rand, Perin, Verin, Moraine, Lan (probably), Birgitte, and Siuan. And I think Tuon was pretty honest about what info the Foretlling her Damane gave her. His status as Hornblower is pretty secret IMHO.


Dont forget Egwene, Nynaeve, Elayne, Rhuarc, and Faile.


I am waiting anxiously to see Rand and Tam meet again. I hope it isnt glossed over like Rand and Logain meeting. That made me throw the book in disgust.
 

Ashrem Bayle

Explorer
Aaron L said:
Dont forget Egwene, Nynaeve, Elayne, Rhuarc, and Faile.


I am waiting anxiously to see Rand and Tam meet again. I hope it isnt glossed over like Rand and Logain meeting. That made me throw the book in disgust.

I didn't like the way Tam reacted to hearing Rand was the Dragon Reborn. It was like:

Perrin: Your son is the messiah/anitchrist.
Tam: Bummer...
 
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Aaron L

Hero
I think Tam may already have pieced it together himself. Hes rather worldly and pretty sharp, and if he knew anything about the Prophecies, well, he KNEW where Rand was born, after all. So his reaction wasnt as stunned as someone who had no idea.
 

Ashrem Bayle

Explorer
Aaron L said:
I think Tam may already have pieced it together himself. Hes rather worldly and pretty sharp, and if he knew anything about the Prophecies, well, he KNEW where Rand was born, after all. So his reaction wasnt as stunned as someone who had no idea.

Yeah, maybe you're right.

And hey, did anyone else notice the sheer number of lesbians mentioned in this book? It seemed like every other page mentioned a "pillow friend". Of note, I thought were about to see some hot Chosen on Chosen lesbian action for a few pages there. :D
 

Orius

Legend
Ashrem Bayle said:
And hey, did anyone else notice the sheer number of lesbians mentioned in this book? It seemed like every other page mentioned a "pillow friend". Of note, I thought were about to see some hot Chosen on Chosen lesbian action for a few pages there. :D

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. The White Tower seems absolutely rife with lesbianism. Moiraine did it, Siuan did it, Elaida did it, practically half of them seem to have done it.

On the other hand I thought it was funny that that old bat Romanda enjoyed reading that romance novel about heroes like Birgitte.

Also, what's with all the foul-mouthed Aes Sedai too? There's already Doesine who was introduced back in Book 8, and characterized by lots of swearing. But this book had at least 3 or 4 more sisters with bad mouths.
 

iwatt

First Post
Aaron L said:
Dont forget Egwene, Nynaeve, Elayne, Rhuarc, and Faile.

Forgot about Faile and Rhuarc. But Nyaneve and Elayne specifically don't know (Birgitte spelled this out in Ebou Dar). Possible Egwene learnes MAt was the Hornblower from Siuan, but that is just guesswork at this point.
 

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