Kraken-lich

Shadowcortax

Dragon fanatic
Looking to make a Monster that is kraken version of a lich or Dracolich, a krakenlich? Any idea where to start?
 

Coroc

Adventurer
Ouch, that is a hard one.
Normally a Kraken is some giant octopuss its strength comes from:
Offense: number of attacks (8 arms I grapple! one bite beak), do not forget it could pull things underwater
Defense: its pool of HP which should be very high due to its size, ink for a darkness like effect, nat AC should not be to high eventually 13 to 15 max. Maybe its pool of HP is "distributed" aka not really but say if a player declares to attack 1 arm only and the arm takes 10% of the krakens total hp it is cut off or so. It should regenerate

A Lich is an undead wizard or other caster
A dracolich is an undead dragon.
They normally are freewilled and have a phylactery to contain their lifeforce. The phylactery has to be found and destroyed otherwise the mob will reform after a time when it was slain.

Normally Krakens are pretty dumb; actually they are quite intelligent IRL but not in a way that you would say they are a caster. The thing they could "cast" would be some maelstrom water based attack, so include this for more fun.

Ok, attach a phylactery, eventually some beautifully carved conch or crab shell to stay maritime i ntopic or some giant pearl which is even better. Maybe all three of them, two are false.

So lets start:

CR 24

Str 30 +10 Save with advantage
Dex 10 +0
Con 26 +8 Save +14
Int 14 +2
Wis 12 +1
Cha 6 -2

HP 24x 1d20 +192 for 480 Regenerates 48 HP per turn when below 240 HP.
AC 13 (lets keep that low)

Undead, immune to poison, charm, death effects,
resistant to necrotic
resistant to cold
resistant to nonmagic weapons
resistant to bludgeon (even magic)

#AT 9


To hit +16

8x arm for 3d12 +30 SA grapple save DC 24 Str to break free or be restrained. 50% to be pulled under water next round to receive drowning effects

An arm can be destroyed by inflicting 48 damage, specific target has to be declared by the attacker

1x beak for 4d12 + 40

Legendary actions (3): recharge 1d6(5-6)

floodwave (2 actions) pushes back attackers 100 feet
Maelstroem Pulls up to two attackers under water for drowning damage (1 action)
Ink: like a darkness (1 action)

Lifeforce sealed, means the phylactery has to be destroyed.

Octopus does not have bones except 1 fin in their head so it is consisting only of rotting flesh.
 

dave2008

Legend
Normally Krakens are pretty dumb; actually they are quite intelligent IRL but not in a way that you would say they are a caster. The thing they could "cast" would be some maelstrom water based attack, so include this for more fun.
It sounds like you are not familiar with the kraken in 5e. It has an intelligence of 22, which is 2 higher than the 5e lich.
 

dave2008

Legend
Well, if you use the dracolich as a model, you don't have to change much from the kraken stat block. The only differences between an adult blue dragon and and an adult blue dracolich is that the dracolich gets:
  • resistance to necrotic damage
  • immunity to poison
  • magic resistance
Personally, I would change more, but adding those three traits is a good start.
 

dave2008

Legend
In addition to the traits I listed above, I would maybe give it:
  • innate spell casting trait
  • maybe give it a version of the lich's paralyzing touch (but with tentacles) or...
  • perhaps a necrotic inflicting tentacle attack and...
  • a unique legendary action or two.
 

Shadowcortax

Dragon fanatic
My campaign setting is a world I created. It has a 25 abominations/monstrosities that are fairly strong as well as a few high level adventurers that could have brought it near death. It is a world rife with undeath
 

dave2008

Legend
I suppose one issue is krakens are immortal, so wouldn't have much incentive to become liches.
They may not age, by they are not immortal. If you kill, it is dead (as far as I remember). However, a lich would still come back if you destroyed its body. So there is some reason to explore lichdom.
 

Shadowcortax

Dragon fanatic
It may not have become a lich willingly.
In the world I made, as long as something has a strong enough soul and a suitable receptacle nearby to act as a phlactery, it can become a lich or just an undead if no phlactery is nearby.
 
Looking to make a Monster that is kraken version of a lich or Dracolich, a krakenlich? Any idea where to start?
Start with a kraken, make it undead, remove amphibious (doesn't need to breathe), and make the following changes:
  • Give it the lich's Rejuvenation and Turn Resistance traits.
  • Lich condition immunities (charmed, exhaustion, frightened, paralyzed, poisoned), add poison to its damage immunities, and give it resistance to cold & necrotic damage.
  • I would not waste time on giving it the lich's Paralyzing Touch, and just let it be a freaking kraken slamming ships apart.
  • I would give it the Frightening Gaze and Disrupt Life legendary actions of a lich.
  • Give it Spellcasting, but I would select a different spell list than the MM lich. Here's one possible spell load-out:
Cantrips (at will): mage hand, shape water, shocking grasp
1st level (4 slots): absorb elements, detect magic, fog cloud, thunderwave
2nd level (3 slots): blur, detect thoughts, see invisibility, skywrite
3rd level (3 s lots): bestow curse, dispel magic, sleet storm, tidal wave (or wall of water)
4th level (3 slots): control water, hallucinatory terrain
5th level (3 slots): cloudkill, scrying
6th level (1 slot): chain lightning, eyebite
7th level (1 slot): plane shift, whirlwind
8th level (1 slot): antipathy/sympathy, control weather
9th level (1 slot): weird
 

Nebulous

Hero
Start with a kraken, make it undead, remove amphibious (doesn't need to breathe), and make the following changes:
  • Give it the lich's Rejuvenation and Turn Resistance traits.
  • Lich condition immunities (charmed, exhaustion, frightened, paralyzed, poisoned), add poison to its damage immunities, and give it resistance to cold & necrotic damage.
  • I would not waste time on giving it the lich's Paralyzing Touch, and just let it be a freaking kraken slamming ships apart.
  • I would give it the Frightening Gaze and Disrupt Life legendary actions of a lich.
  • Give it Spellcasting, but I would select a different spell list than the MM lich. Here's one possible spell load-out:
Cantrips (at will): mage hand, shape water, shocking grasp
1st level (4 slots): absorb elements, detect magic, fog cloud, thunderwave
2nd level (3 slots): blur, detect thoughts, see invisibility, skywrite
3rd level (3 s lots): bestow curse, dispel magic, sleet storm, tidal wave (or wall of water)
4th level (3 slots): control water, hallucinatory terrain
5th level (3 slots): cloudkill, scrying
6th level (1 slot): chain lightning, eyebite
7th level (1 slot): plane shift, whirlwind
8th level (1 slot): antipathy/sympathy, control weather
9th level (1 slot): weird
That's great. I think one or two unique spells in the higher slots would be even better though. Just to keep the PCs on their toes.
 

dave2008

Legend
Start with a kraken, make it undead, remove amphibious (doesn't need to breathe), and make the following changes:
  • Give it the lich's Rejuvenation and Turn Resistance traits.
  • Lich condition immunities (charmed, exhaustion, frightened, paralyzed, poisoned), add poison to its damage immunities, and give it resistance to cold & necrotic damage.
  • I would not waste time on giving it the lich's Paralyzing Touch, and just let it be a freaking kraken slamming ships apart.
  • I would give it the Frightening Gaze and Disrupt Life legendary actions of a lich.
  • Give it Spellcasting, but I would select a different spell list than the MM lich. Here's one possible spell load-out:
Cantrips (at will): mage hand, shape water, shocking grasp
1st level (4 slots): absorb elements, detect magic, fog cloud, thunderwave
2nd level (3 slots): blur, detect thoughts, see invisibility, skywrite
3rd level (3 s lots): bestow curse, dispel magic, sleet storm, tidal wave (or wall of water)
4th level (3 slots): control water, hallucinatory terrain
5th level (3 slots): cloudkill, scrying
6th level (1 slot): chain lightning, eyebite
7th level (1 slot): plane shift, whirlwind
8th level (1 slot): antipathy/sympathy, control weather
9th level (1 slot): weird
I general I like it a lot; however, i would probably just pick a few,4-8 spells and put them in the innate casting trait instead of spellcasting.
 

Shadowcortax

Dragon fanatic
Start with a kraken, make it undead, remove amphibious (doesn't need to breathe), and make the following changes:
  • Give it the lich's Rejuvenation and Turn Resistance traits.
  • Lich condition immunities (charmed, exhaustion, frightened, paralyzed, poisoned), add poison to its damage immunities, and give it resistance to cold & necrotic damage.
  • I would not waste time on giving it the lich's Paralyzing Touch, and just let it be a freaking kraken slamming ships apart.
  • I would give it the Frightening Gaze and Disrupt Life legendary actions of a lich.
  • Give it Spellcasting, but I would select a different spell list than the MM lich. Here's one possible spell load-out:
Cantrips (at will): mage hand, shape water, shocking grasp
1st level (4 slots): absorb elements, detect magic, fog cloud, thunderwave
2nd level (3 slots): blur, detect thoughts, see invisibility, skywrite
3rd level (3 s lots): bestow curse, dispel magic, sleet storm, tidal wave (or wall of water)
4th level (3 slots): control water, hallucinatory terrain
5th level (3 slots): cloudkill, scrying
6th level (1 slot): chain lightning, eyebite
7th level (1 slot): plane shift, whirlwind
8th level (1 slot): antipathy/sympathy, control weather
9th level (1 slot): weird
Thanks I'll probably use that as my starting point and go from there.
Thanks a lot
 

Coroc

Adventurer
In addition to the traits I listed above, I would maybe give it:
  • innate spell casting trait
  • maybe give it a version of the lich's paralyzing touch (but with tentacles) or...
  • perhaps a necrotic inflicting tentacle attack and...
  • a unique legendary action or two.
Yea I did not read 5e stat block I was not aware there is one.

Still paralyzing touch and also spellcasting is pretty unnecessary if you consider the melee attacks and grapple which is as effective but more dramatic than paralyzing touch.
To make a giant octopus a caster offers nothing I can see. I know that dragons are often excellent spellcasters, for them being involved in magic, since many of them able to change into a humanoid as well, this makes sense although their natural combat abilities make spellcasting in combat the less good option in most all the cases.

So if the Kraken lich is intelligent then this should be rather reflected in its tactics, maybe ability to communicate.
 

dave2008

Legend
Yea I did not read 5e stat block I was not aware there is one.

Still paralyzing touch and also spellcasting is pretty unnecessary if you consider the melee attacks and grapple which is as effective but more dramatic than paralyzing touch.
To make a giant octopus a caster offers nothing I can see. I know that dragons are often excellent spellcasters, for them being involved in magic, since many of them able to change into a humanoid as well, this makes sense although their natural combat abilities make spellcasting in combat the less good option in most all the cases.

So if the Kraken lich is intelligent then this should be rather reflected in its tactics, maybe ability to communicate.
The reason for spellcasting was because of the "lich" part. Traditionally liches, even dracoliches, have been spellcasters. It is not that the stat block needs it, but it fits the flavor of a lich. Same thing for the paralyzing touch, but I personally would prefer adding some necrotic damage like demogorgon or a vampire
 

Advertisement

Top