Lost (09/28) spoilers

[Dagger75]

Did you mean "What did the snowman say to the other snowman?" or was there something later I missed? Sounds like the kind of identification code word spies might ask for.

It could be that, my roommate said the same thing. The answer I have heard for that joke "Its ICE to meet you." I wasn't paying very close attention so it very well could be snowman and not sihloutte. (Sihloutte sounds more mysterious if you ask me.)

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

108 hours is the same as 4 and ½ days.

Why didn’t Desmond notice Locke and Boone (before he snuffed it - I hope the writers kill more people this year.) screwing with the hatch?

Repeating a point I made earlier, Ethan Rom had blue-gray colored scalaria – the part of the eye normally white – when he attacked Charlie the second time and demanded Claire be given to him. I still suspect this is a symptom of the mysterious disease, the one that has so many of the long-time inhabitants so spooked.

How did Jin get to the island so far ahead of Michael and Sawyer that he had to time be both captured and then escape from the “Others.”

And if the people playing tag – as an extreme contact sport – with Jin are from the tail section, where did they get the board with the nails? There is normally not a lot of wood on a commercial passenger jet. (Admittedly there is usually not a lot of fireworks or axes of jets either.)

If the “Others” are on the opposite side of the island to the one our main survivors are on, then the survivors from the tail section of the plane may have (ahem) fallen into their lap 44 days ago.

Originally the series writers and creators were talking about a four or five season run for the show. I wonder if they are still thinking of drawing it out that long.

By the by, dharma is distinct from karma, meaning;

Dharma is a sanskrit word and a concept of eastern religions. Simply explained, it is the way of the higher Truths, a lifestyle that leads to minimum accumulation of karma and is therefore the fastest path to personal liberation.

Karma, by comparison is;

The doctrine of karma states that one's state in this life is a result of actions (both physical and mental) in past incarnations, and action in this life can determine one's destiny in future incarnations. Karma is a natural, impersonal law of moral cause and effect and has no connection with the idea of a supreme power that decrees punishment or forgiveness of sins. Karmic law is universally applicable, and only those who have attained liberation from rebirth, called mukti (or moksha) or nirvana, can transcend it.

Thus perhaps we, the audience, are being told that the survivors are on the island because they deserve to be stranded there for past transgressions and until they make some sort of proper recompense or atonement, all attempts to escape will fail.

Certainly a number of the characters have made a number of past transgressions, including Charlie (drug abuse, theft, etc.), Kate (robbery, getting lovers killed through negligence, etc.) and Sawyer (theft, murder, etc.).

However, others have made few such transgressions yet are none the less marooned on the island, such as Jack, Locke and Michael. Whatever transgressions they made are both debatable and minor.

 

[John Crichton]

I really liked Locke's quick thinking there. "Are you him?" "Yes.. I am.."

He's obviously seen Ghostbusters and taken proper notes.

"Are you a God?"

 

[John Crichton]

By the by, dharma is distinct from karma, meaning;

Dharma is a sanskrit word and a concept of eastern religions. Simply explained, it is the way of the higher Truths, a lifestyle that leads to minimum accumulation of karma and is therefore the fastest path to personal liberation.

Karma, by comparison is;

The doctrine of karma states that one's state in this life is a result of actions (both physical and mental) in past incarnations, and action in this life can determine one's destiny in future incarnations. Karma is a natural, impersonal law of moral cause and effect and has no connection with the idea of a supreme power that decrees punishment or forgiveness of sins. Karmic law is universally applicable, and only those who have attained liberation from rebirth, called mukti (or moksha) or nirvana, can transcend it.

Thus perhaps we, the audience, are being told that the survivors are on the island because they deserve to be stranded there for past transgressions and until they make some sort of proper recompense or atonement, all attempts to escape will fail.

Certainly a number of the characters have made a number of past transgressions, including Charlie (drug abuse, theft, etc.), Kate (robbery, getting lovers killed through negligence, etc.) and Sawyer (theft, murder, etc.).

However, others have made few such transgressions yet are none the less marooned on the island, such as Jack, Locke and Michael. Whatever transgressions they made are both debatable and minor.

Good stuff. Thanks for the info.

I really hope they expand more next week about the Faith/Destiny debate between Jack and Locke. It certainly won't be resolved but their bond will either continue to divide or strengthen.

 

[stevelabny]

Man. Many people here seem to be not liking what I like most about the show. I like and EXPECT them not to show much at all. It's the suspense that I like. I will agree this was not my favorite episode, more for the inane dialogue between Sawyer and Mike as well as Mike's flashback (which, I agree, seemed redundant), than them showing what happened to Locke and Kate.

I LOVE things like the emblem on the shark or the numbers being on the bottles of serum from last episode. That's what pulls me to this show and I'm telling you right now if you don't like it you may as well stop watching cause I don't think it's going to change.

Sure its all well and good...IF it means something, if it goes somewhere, if it has value.
I'm not asking for every single thing to be explained right now.
But so far the show has revealed NOTHING, just added more and more layers of confusion with no end in sight.
The longer it goes without giving us any facts to hang the clues and theories on, the less I believe that the clues and theories mean anything.

 

[fett527]

Did you mean "What did the snowman say to the other snowman?" or was there something later I missed? Sounds like the kind of identification code word spies might ask for...

This is how I heard it. Snowman.

And everyone keeps saying 108 hours, but I think it's 108 minutes. The numbers to the right ticked off like seconds so it was 2:38, 2:37, etc. It then reset to 108:00. Am I just not remembering it correctly? I'll have to see when I rewatch it.

 

[John Crichton]

But so far the show has revealed NOTHING, just added more and more layers of confusion with no end in sight.

That's untrue. They reveal new things about the characters or the island with every episode. It may not be moving fast enough for you but to say nothing is being revealed is false.

 

[Hand of Evil]

I don't think the others are from the the tail section. In the previews from next week when they throw Mike, Sawyer, and Jin into the pit, you see Michelle Rodrigues's (sp)character in there as well, your hear either Mike or Sawyer says "A girl". We know that she was in the tail section, it seems unlikely they would lock up one of their own.

I think they could, if they have gone all lord of the flys and someone has become a leader/dictator, locking up the person that is causing the most problems. We do not know what they have been throught, they could be on the 'bad' side of the island.

 

[John Crichton]

This is how I heard it. Snowman.

And everyone keeps saying 108 hours, but I think it's 108 minutes. The numbers to the right ticked off like seconds so it was 2:38, 2:37, etc. It then reset to 108:00. Am I just not remembering it correctly? I'll have to see when I rewatch it.

You are correct. It counts down in seconds. So - minutes:seconds

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I don't think the others are from the the tail section. In the previews from next week when they throw Mike, Sawyer, and Jin into the pit, you see Michelle Rodrigues's (sp)character in there as well, your hear either Mike or Sawyer says "A girl". We know that she was in the tail section, it seems unlikely they would lock up one of their own.

Man, you have got to read "Lord of the Flies."