Making Religion Matter in Fantasy RPGs

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Religion is a powerful force in any culture and difficult to ignore when creating a gaming setting. Here's some things to consider when incorporating religions into your campaign.

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The Question of Gods​

When we look at religion from a gaming perspective, the most interesting thing about it is that in many settings, the existence of deities is not in question. One of the most common arguments over religion is whether there even is a god of any form. But in many fantasy games especially, deities offer proof of their existence on a daily basis. Their power is channelled through clerics and priests and a fair few have actually been seen manifesting in the material realm. This makes it pretty hard to be an atheist in a D&D game.

While the adherents of any faith believe the existence of their deity is a given fact, having actual proof changes the way that religion is seen by outsiders. In many ancient cultures, people believed in not only their gods, but the gods of other cultures. So to win a war or conquer another culture was proof your gods were more powerful than theirs. While winning a war against another culture can make you pretty confident, winning one against another culture’s gods can make you arrogant. Add to that the fact you had warrior priests manifesting divine power on the battlefield, you are pretty soon going to start thinking that not only is winning inevitable, but that it is also a divine destiny. Again, these are all attitudes plenty of believers have had in ancient days, but in many fantasy worlds they might actually be right.

Magic vs. Prayer​

If a world has magic, it might be argued that this power is just another form of magic. Wizards might scoff at clerics, telling them they are just dabblers who haven’t learned true magic. But this gets trickier if there are things the clerics can do with their magic that the wizards can’t do with theirs. Some wizards might spend their lives trying to duplicate the effects of clerics, and what happens if one of them does?

The reverse is also interesting. Clerics might potentially manifest any form of magical power if it suits their deity. So if the priest of fire can not only heal but throw fireballs around, is it the wizards that need to get themselves some religion to become true practitioners of the art? Maybe the addition of faith is the only way to really gain the true power of magic?

Are the Gods Real?​

While divine power might be unarguably real, the source of it might still be in contention. A priest might be connecting to some more primal force than magicians, or tapping into some force of humanity. What priests think is a connection to the divine might actually just be another form of magic. As such, it could have some unexpected side effects.

Let’s say this divine power draws from the life force of sentient beings. As it does so in a very broad way, this effect is barely noticed in most populations. A tiny amount of life from the population as a whole powers each spell. But once the cleric goes somewhere remote they might find their magic starts draining the life from those nearby. In remote areas, clerics might be feared rather than revered, and the moment they try to prove they are right by manifesting the true power of their deity, they (and the townsfolk) are in for a very nasty surprise.

Can You Not Believe in Them?​

There are ways to still play an atheist character in a fantasy game. However, it does require more thought beyond "well I don’t believe in it." That's a sure way to make your character look foolish, especially after they have just been healed by a cleric.

What will also make things much tougher is having a character that refuses to benefit from the power of religion due to their beliefs. They might insist that if they don’t know what in this healing magic, they don’t want any part of it, especially if the priest can’t really explain it outside the terms of their faith. That this healing works will not be in doubt. So are they being principled or a fool? If the explanation for magical healing isn’t "this is just healing energy" but "it’s the power of my deity, entering your body and changing it for the better" the character might be more reticent about a few more hit points.

When it comes to deities manifesting on the material plane, it’s a little harder to ignore them. But this isn’t always evidence of the divine. A manifesting deity is undoubtedly a powerful being, one able to crush armies and level cities, but does that make them divine? While the power of a deity is not in dispute, the definition of what is actually divine in nature is a lot muddier. This is ironically harder in a fantasy world where lich-kings, dragons and powerful wizards can do all the same things many deities are supposed to do.

What Are Gods?​

So we come back to the question: Whether you are a cleric, adherent or atheist, of what actually is god? What quality of them demands or inspires worship beyond the fact they are powerful? Plenty of philosophers are still trying to figure that one out. While in a fantasy game their existence and power may not be in question, whether they are holy or even worthy of trust and faith might be much harder to divine.
 

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Andrew Peregrine

Andrew Peregrine

Atheist:
a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.
My PC denied that gods were sentient independent beings that could have or would continue to exist without worshippers. There were no supreme beings, just advanced programmed constructs and illusions.

The term "supreme being" does a lot of heavy lifting there, for something that doesn't actually have a clear definition.

Indeed, I would contest that, "sentience," in whatever normal meanings we mortals have, may not apply to some forms of deity.
 

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I think Atheism is really tricky to do in D&D. You'd have to have a setting where there is no actual proof of gods existing to not look as a conspirational lunatic. I think Eberron does something atheist adjacent well (me talking about Eberron, shocker, I know). The blood of Vol still believe gods exist, but they think gods are petty entities that steal the spark of divinity from people and make them endure death (there's more to it, but this isn't a blood of vol thread). So they believe gods exist, but just don't think we should worship them.
 

I think Atheism is really tricky to do in D&D. You'd have to have a setting where there is no actual proof of gods existing to not look as a conspirational lunatic. I think Eberron does something atheist adjacent well (me talking about Eberron, shocker, I know). The blood of Vol still believe gods exist, but they think gods are petty entities that steal the spark of divinity from people and make them endure death (there's more to it, but this isn't a blood of vol thread). So they believe gods exist, but just don't think we should worship them.
A genuine athiest is the equivalent of a flat-earther in a standard DnD setting.

But anti-theism (the gods exist but they all suck and no one should worship them) is generally easy to justify.
 

I think Atheism is really tricky to do in D&D. You'd have to have a setting where there is no actual proof of gods existing to not look as a conspirational lunatic. I think Eberron does something atheist adjacent well (me talking about Eberron, shocker, I know). The blood of Vol still believe gods exist, but they think gods are petty entities that steal the spark of divinity from people and make them endure death (there's more to it, but this isn't a blood of vol thread). So they believe gods exist, but just don't think we should worship them.
I think it is easy to be an Atheist in a D&D setting.

"Yes there is a being Zeus who throws lightning bolts, lives up on Mount Olympus, and is worshiped as a god. He's a vain storm giant. Actual gods do not exist."

"The beings called gods are outsiders with significant magical powers. They can grant specific types of magic similar to how non-god warlock patrons can. They are very powerful magical beings. That is different from being an actual god. Actual gods do not exist."
 

"The beings called gods are outsiders with significant magical powers. They can grant specific types of magic similar to how non-god warlock patrons can. They are very powerful magical beings. That is different from being an actual god. Actual gods do not exist."

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A genuine athiest is the equivalent of a flat-earther in a standard DnD setting.

I don't think it is difficult at all, given how few things actually count as "proof" that a being is a "god".

Indeed, I think you'll find that there's precious little definition of what constitutes a "god" in the first place. Kind of hard to prove you are a thing, when that thing isn't well-defined.
 

Indeed, I think you'll find that there's precious little definition of what constitutes a "god" in the first place. Kind of hard to prove you are a thing, when that thing isn't well-defined.
Remaking the universe from the dawn of time without the doubter in it kind of doesn't prove it to them, so that big gun is out. Rewriting their brain feels like cheating. And it would be annoying to give them eternal damnation only to have them keep yelling "you can't keep this up forever you big fake".
 

Remaking the universe from the dawn of time without the doubter in it kind of doesn't prove it to them, so that big gun is out. Rewriting their brain feels like cheating. And it would be annoying to give them eternal damnation only to have them keep yelling "you can't keep this up forever you big fake".
That assumes there's an afterlife.
 

If y'all think that what is basically an advanced version of a programmed illusion is a god, then I can't really argue with it. I think it's pretty nonsensical, much like calling the charlatan behind a curtain in The Wizard of Oz a real wizard.

Dreams weren't real any more than the gods to my PC. Even if they were real creatures behind a curtain with a lot of smoke and special effects, they still wouldn't be gods. IMHO that makes him an atheist.
 


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