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Quick question y'all...

I was watching Headbanger's Ball a couple of weeks ago and caught a clip of Rob Halford singing something...and then we had an emergency broadcast break-in. I didn't catch enough to recognize the song.

Does anyone know if JP has a new album on the way or if Rob doing another solo project?


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The last album was realeased in 2005 (has it really been that long?) so it is possible that the video you saw was off that release, but I will dredge the muck pits for more confirmation. :)


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Danny - my sources tell me that you probably saw "Forgotten Generation"
Halford has released a compilation/update CD entitled 'Metal God - Essentials Vol 1' and there are 2 new songs included - the previously mentioned and "Drop Out". "FG" is the released single.


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D'ya know if it included JP stuff?

It was concert footage- recent, because RH was bald- and the long shot of the band looked more JP than his solo efforts. You know...big stage, lots of speakers, etc.

FWIW, I saw what seems to be new Iron Maiden in another episode of the Ball...sounds good.


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Yeah, JP released "Judas Priest Angel Of Retribution" in 2005.

Maiden released "Matter Of Life And Death" in 2006.

Metal is alive and well. :)


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The new Halford stuff is very much like Priest. (go figure.) If you go here you can probably see the video that you saw. Go to the music section, a video should pop up and start playing.

Maiden's "A Matter of Life and Death" will be 1 year old on August 28th (they are still on tour in Europe promoting it) so new singles from that release are a solid possibility.


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Chapter 3 – The Second Coming (The New British Invasion)
The 70s were humming along nicely; the 60s love-fest was over, Vietnam was coming to the close and Disco hadn’t yet been born. Former 60s Heavy Rock gods Led Zeppelin, The Who and Black Sabbath were still kicking around the block and newcomers Judas Priest were attracting a fan base with their blues/jazz/rock fusion rhythms; a new generation of English teenagers were preparing for their meteoric rise. With the deaths of Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix and Janice Joplin, the raw rock charts had some major holes in the roster. At the conclusion of the Montreux Jazz Festival in December of 1971, a young band was scheduled to begin recording their next album at the Casino location that the Festival used as their main stage.

The stage and casino burned down and the group wrote a song about the experience of losing this pristine site and the subsequent search for an alternate location. The song was “Smoke on the Water” and the band was Deep Purple. As a side note, the only song not recorded at the ‘Grand Hotel” made famous by the song was “Smoke on the Water”. The lyrics were recorded there, but the instrumentation was actually recorded at the Casino during a sound check and layout session before the great conflagration.

Deep Purple had their first bonafide hit record, Machine Head and the single “Smoke on the Water” hit #1 in 1973 a year after the albums release (originally the band didn’t think it would make it on the charts and waited to release it as a ‘bridging’ single prior to their next studio release.) Following the success of Deep Purple, Great Britain once again paraded the heavy music talent to shape a new music sensation. Bands such as Deep Purple split off bands such as Rainbow and Whitesnake, led a charge and were followed closely by Iron Maiden, Saxon, Angel Witch, Motorhead and pop opera sensations Queen.

The English metal scene was much different than its counterpart in America; while American rock had started to mold and starve off of the leftover 60s sensations, the Brit metal bands began to explore new ways of recording and new musical techniques by studying other diverse musical styles, such as folk, country and western, classical and jazz/funk. So different was this music that the American public fell into bed with the sin of music, Disco (moment of silence for stupidity). With rare exceptions, nearly all metal and hard rock bands of the early 70s came from Europe and not until their establishment of the genre did Americans respond by the mid 70s.

But the English scene brought both great new innovations and blinding tragedy to the playing field. The Soundhouse, a heavy metal disco night ran out of The Bandwagon a nightclub attached to the Prince of Wales public (pub) house in Kingsbury (Northwest London). The club nights became so popular that established groups such as Judas Priest, Sammy Hagar (recently departed from Montrose), and April Wine began showing up to put their fingers on the pulse of the fans, often mingling directly with them, buying them pints and asking which bands they thought were hot.

The most significant contributions to the culture of rock that The Soundhouse added, were the air guitar and ‘headbanging’ competitions, but also the rampant drug and alcohol abuse and the habit of changing the bands personnel moments before taking the stage. Often times these disbanded musicians would team up and form new groups, only to break-up and start the whole cycle over.
As the 70s passed the mid point (about ‘76’) the American rock scene began to wake from its long and silent sleep and future artists from the European music scene would once again be influenced by American music, but the acts they would listen to had stayed focused on music played by these pivotal groups in metal history. Their wild, loud and heavy rock n’ roll sustained the nation of metalheads while the rock airwaves were littered by The Captain and Tenniel, ABBA, The Carpenters and The Bee Gees; and for their contributions we should be truly and eternally thankful.

(Up next – an appendix of hierarchal history – the Deep Purple Syndrome)


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Re: Montrose

Ronnie Montrose, for those who don't know, is kind of the pre-Satriani Satriani. While his discography contains a fair amount of mainstream rock, complete with vocalists (like the aforementioned Sammy Hagar), it also includes a lot of really cool sci-fi themed instrumentals.


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Dannyalcatraz said:
Re: Montrose

Ronnie Montrose, for those who don't know, is kind of the pre-Satriani Satriani. While his discography contains a fair amount of mainstream rock, complete with vocalists (like the aforementioned Sammy Hagar), it also includes a lot of really cool sci-fi themed instrumentals.
And is definitely worth checking out!


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Appendix A – The Deep Purple Syndrome (A Heavy Metal Family Tree)
The original line up of Deep Purple consisted of Richie Blackmore (Guitar), Ian Paice (Drums), Rod Evans (Vocals), Nick Simper(Bass) and Jon Lord (Keyboards). They proved to be a force of Jazz influenced Blues musicians with a head for the rock n’ roll lifestyle. But the group began to have creative differences from nearly the outset. Once the legendary group began to have internal personnel issues (mostly because of Richie Blackmore’s reportedly odd behavior), the line up began to change quickly and often.

Original singer Rod Evans and Bass player Nick Simper were sacked after the band’s record label went belly up. The rumors said it had to do with the lighter music Evans was pursuing, most notably a ditty penned for a woman in the musical Hair he was trying to seduce; the band, looking for a heavier sound, took that moment to drop them both. Ian Gillan and Roger Glover were recruited from the band Episode Six and would later take the group to new musical heights. This is the legendary line-up that recorded the hits “Smoke on the Water”, “Highway Star” and “Space Truckin’”.

When Gillan and Glover walked after Blackmore (their tour roommate) started to ‘act strangely’, an unknown singer by the name of David Coverdale took Gillan’s place and Glenn Hughes replaced Glover. (Gillan and Glover contacted former Episode Six drummer Mick Underwood and created the band Gillan) Though the album (Stormbringer) was a success and the group had several additional singles that charted and were receiving heavy rotation, Blackmore finally left the group and formed Rainbow with singer Ronnie James Dio and drummer Cozy Powell. Coverdale, crushed went penned and turned in his resignation to the manager only to be told he was quitting a band that no longer existed.

The remaining members decided that they should try to make a go of it. Hughes suggested that Coverdale check out this hot young guitarist that he had done some session work with named Tommy Bolin. Coverdale liked what he heard and convinced the other members it was meant to be and replaced ‘the irreplaceable’ Blackmore with Bolin. Hughes helped Bolin to find his musical confidence and soon Bolin started filling the void of Blackmore’s instrumental genius by writing the bulk of the songs on the group’s Come Taste the Band album. The band finally called it quits in 1976.

After Purple Coverdale formed his own band Whitesnake, meanwhile Ronnie Dio left Rainbow to join Black Sabbath so singer Graham Bonnet took over; he later left to join the Michael Schenker Group (MSG) and to form Alcatrazz with Yngwie Malmsteen (guitar). Bonnet and Powell (who then joined Black Sabbath) were replaced by Joe Lynn Turner (vocals) and Bobbi Rondinelli (drums). Turner later left with Rondinelli to replace Dio and Powell in Black Sabbath.

Coverdale’s Whitesnake included former Purple alumni Ian Paice, Jon Lord and Cozy Powell & Dio’s Band Dio also had former Black Sabbath/Purple alumni. The original band eventually reformed in 1984 and after a year Gillan was once again gone, this time replaced by Joe Lynn Turner. Turner quit, to join former Alcatrazz guitarist Malmsteen in Rising Force.

As you can see this gets convoluted, so let me simplify:

Deep Purple had: Richie Blackmore, Ian Paice, Jon Lord, Ian Gillan, Roger Glover, David Coverdale, Glenn Hughes, Joe Lynn Turner

Rainbow: Richie Blackmore, Ronnie James Dio, Glenn Hughes, Joe Lynn Turner, Graham Bonnet, Bobbi Rondinelli, Jimmy Bain, Cozy Powell

Black Sabbath: Ronnie James Dio, Vinny Appice, Ian Gillan, Cozy Powell, Bobbi Rondinelli, Glenn Hughes

Whitesnake: David Coverdale, Ian Paice, Jon Lord, Cozy Powell, Vivian Campbell, Rudy Sarzo, Doug Aldrich

Dio: Ronnie James Dio, Vinny Appice, Vivian Campbell, Jimmy Bain, Rudy Sarzo, Doug Aldrich

Associated Bands: Quiet Riot(2), Dixie Dregs(2), Winger(2), Ozzy Osbourne(4), Alcatrazz(3), Gillan(2), Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force(8), Thin Lizzy(3), Paice Ashton & Lord (4)

Other Prominent Purple Alumni: Joe Satriani (Solo artist, taught Steve Vai (David Lee Roth, Solo, Alcatrazz and Whitesnake) and Kirk Hammet (Metallica), Steve Morse (Kansas, Dixie Dregs)

If you wanted to really get into this, you could add links to all sorts of Heavy Metal acts but as you can tell, this family tree forks, bends back and branches all over heavy rock. Deep Purple can be pointed to as probably one of the most influential bands in Heavy Metal history strictly on the strength of personnel alone. And you thought Kevin Bacon was connected.


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Very thorough, and you still missed some! (Of course, almost everybody in music knows everybody).

You missed Rainbow (1975-77, 1994) keyboardist Tony Carey, who had a solo career which featured "Fine Fine Day" and another band, Planet P Project (most noted for its hit "Why Me?" and whose name is a reference to Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers).

Yngwie J. Malmsteen started off with the band Steeler. He also worked with Joe Lynn Turner...formerly of Fandango and a man who worked with YJM and with Blackmore in Deep Purple & Rainbow also has solo albums with Glenn Hughes...

Alumni from YJM's Rising Force bands include Jens Johannsen, who has worked with the phenominal jazz bass player Jonas Hellborg and recording legend Ginger Baker (of Cream, Blind Faith, Masters of Reality, Hawkwind, Public Image Ltd. and others).

Baker also worked with Bill Laswell.

Bill Laswell and Jonas Hellborg are both incredible bass players whose discography contains sooooo many people that I don't have time to list them all...but metalheads should take note that Laswell helped bring Buckethead to prominence (sometime member of G'n'R), and worked with Bootsy Collins in a band called Praxis...after which Bootsy did a metal album under the name Zillatron with Laswell and Buckethead.

Hellborg's work includes work with Buckethead as well, and the incredible work of the late Shawn Lane. He has a taste for eastern flavored jazz and speedy metal.

Shawn Lane? His shredwork on his Vigier Surfreter (fretless) guitar is worth investigating.

Public Image Limited was formed by John Lydon of the Sex Pistols, and successful soloist Jah Wobble.

Hawkwind included members like Lemmy of Motorhead and Michael Moorcock (yes, the writer). Motorhead member Fast Eddie Clark and UFO bassist formed Fastway with Robert Plant-wannabe Dave King (of Flogging Molly, and after Fastway, Katmandu {with Mandy Meyer of Krokus})

Graham Bonnet was in a band with YJM-wannabe Chris Impellitieri.

Ronnie James Dio started off in a band called Elf.

Ritchie Blackmore is currently recording with Candace Night as Blackmore's Night- a pseudo-folk-rock band influenced by rennaisance music.

Satriani taught not only Steve Vai and Kirk Hammet, but also Alex Skolnick (Savatage, Testament, Alex Skolnick Trio (a jazz ensemble), Charlie Hunter (a jazz phenom), David Bryson (Counting Crows), Kevin Cadogan (Third Eye Blind), Larry LaLonde (Primus, Possessed), Rick Hunolt (Exodus), Tim Calvert (Forbidden, Nevermore), and Phil Kettner (Laaz Rockit).

Of those, Vai is probably his most notable of all- when Satch met him, he couldn't play at all, and after Joe's lessons, he got the role of lead axeman for Frank Zappa.

As you can see, you could just do this for days and days...

If I kept up at this, we'd quickly get into the prog-rock guys whose family tree is just as gnarly, mainly because of Yes and King Crimson.

You see, Greg Lake of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer started off in King Crimson and Bill Bruford of Yes left to join KC, bringing in Plastic Ono Band's Alan White...Ono? That gets us to John Lennon & the Beatles!

Sorry...this is somewhat addictive to me.


Whom else has released records in the past 2 years? I am more of a glam or if you wish- hairband enthusist but I enjoy harder stuff also.

Anything from AC / DC in particular?


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megamania said:
Whom else has released records in the past 2 years? I am more of a glam or if you wish- hairband enthusist but I enjoy harder stuff also.

Anything from AC / DC in particular?

I prophesize that the members of AC/DC will die on stage. ALL OF THEM. Most likely at the same time. So yeah, AC/DC is still around. :)


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Past 2 years? Just off the top of my head (thus, not exhaustive) and in no particular order:

Corrosion of Conformity
System of a Down
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Ozzy Osbourne
Black Label Society
Lacuna Coil
Drowning Pool
Joe Satriani
Queens of the Stone Age
Bad Brains
Yngwie Malmsteen
Army of Anyone (the DeLeo bros. of STP plus the lead singer from Filter)
Nine Inch Nails
Killswitch Engage
Velvet Revolver
Rockstar Supernova
Chris Cornell
Tony Iommi (solo)
Ritchie Blackmore (with Blackmore's Night)
Black Stone Cherry
Avenged Sevenfold
My Chemical Romance
Vernon Reid (with Masque)
Alex Skolnick (with Alex Skolnick Trio)


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Danny - and even in your attempt to be thorough, you missed the fact that Jens Johansen also played session work with Dio. That was why I dropped the little caveat at the end. The fact is, the lines from Deep Purple get so convaluted that they become almost untraceable, especially where the members I listed by name are involved. BTW, your album listing is very nice, I think you hit the major players.

Megamania - As for AC/DC, I don't expect them to release anything new for a while. Their label has kiboshed the last three attempts at album releases as 'dated material'. However, they haven't stopped touring in all that time. If there is a label shake-up (there were some rumors, but I haven't heard anything lately) the chances will probably increase, because on strength of name alone, AC/DC can drop a Gold or Platinum record by crapping on a vinyl disc.

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