Move Equivalent Action.

[Bonedagger]

Why the hell is this such a big deal?

Charge is a standard action anyway, so just stand up as a move-equivalent action and then charge.

That is what I'm trying to explain to Christian and AGGEMAM.

 

[AGGEMAM]

You have misunderstod the list.

No, he is correct in a way.

But before I left I realised what you had misunderstood, an that is what you can actually do in a round, basically you have misunderstood the concept of the round.



Here is what you can do in a normal round without the aid of magic and without being restricted to partial actions:

A standard action

or

A Full round action

or

A special Initiative action



Here is what you can do in a round without the aid of magic if you are restricted to partial actions:

A partial action

or

The special initiative action: Delay



With the aid of magic, you can choose to take an extra partial action.


Make sense now.

 

[Artoomis]

Why the hell is this such a big deal?

Charge is a standard action anyway, so just stand up as a move-equivalent action and then charge.

No, Charge is NOT a standard action.

In the PHB I think you'll find that Charge is a SPECIAL standard action, and in the SRD it's a Full-Round Action, which, when you read it, is actually more accurate. Either way, a regular charge uses up all your actions in a normal (non-hasted) round.

If you read everything in the PHB, you'll find that:

In a normal round, you may take a Standard Action (an action plus a move (or move-equivalent action)) or a Full-Round Action (an action that has no move allowed, or, in some cases, has the move as part of the action). There are two(?) Special Standard Actions, of which Charge is one. IIRC, both of those have been re-categorize as Full-Round Actions in the SRD - which makes sense, because both of them use up all your actions in a round.

A Partial Action is not "normally" chosen - you take one as dictated by circumstances. Haste, Slow and being "staggered" are all examples of when you may take a Partial Action.

The not "normally" chosen language I can only assume refers to Haste, primarily, where you choose to be Hasted, and thus you choose to have a partial action. Allowing a Partial Action at any time makes the whole sentence about not getting them normally totally meaningless, and so one would presume that it's wrong.

As far as Ready Actions:

It's a Standard Action, so a move (or ME) is allowed - that's the core rules. The trigger is very much up to the DM, who must apply some common sense. Obviously, the intent is that you get yourself ready in case some particular event happens - using this to state something like "I ready an Partial Charge for when the orc breathes" is pretty obviously outside the way this action was meant to be used, and any reasonable DM should disallow this sort of thing as being ludicrous.

It's pretty reasonable, though, to:

Get up from prone (ME).
Ready an action to attack the orc if he comes any closer (or draws his sword, or some other reasonable trigger)
Partial Charge the orc.

Readied actions rely upon a DM's reasonableness for deciding what is a valid trigger.

edit: P.S. The DMG, I think it is, makes it clear that while you can choose to generically "attack" with a Partial Action - which lets you make a single attack action or a Partial Charge - you cannot generically "cast a spell" - you must choose which spell you'll cast.

 

[AGGEMAM]

Thanks Artoomis for a more exhaustive explenation than I could possibly give in english, now it'd so much easier if he just e-mailed me, then I could explain it to him (Bonedagger) in plain danish, maybe we could even get a few beers in the process (hey, it is friday evening after all).

 

[Christian]

<snip a whole bunch of exactly correct stuff>

Thank you, Artoomis. Very clearly put. (And I don't have Aggeman's excuse of English being a second language ... )

 

[Artoomis]

Thanks Artoomis for a more exhaustive explenation than I could possibly give in english, now it'd so much easier if he just e-mailed me, then I could explain it to him (Bonedagger) in plain danish, maybe we could even get a few beers in the process (hey, it is friday evening after all).

"Plain Danish." With beer. I like it. Too bad we can only drink virutal beer together!

(Actually I dont drink beer, except Root Beer [do you know what this is?] - it's a long story, but the short version is: got very upset - drowned my sorrows in much beer, got the flu and got sick for a week, now beer does not tase good to me. I call it Unintentional Aversion Therapy.)

 

[AGGEMAM]

(And I don't have Aggeman's excuse of English being a second language ... )

Third language actually, I have a fourth and fifth too.

 

[Christian]

 

[Artoomis]

Third language actually, I have a fourth and fifth too.

Yeah, yeah. That's because you're not American. (As is USA - Canadians and most others in the Americas mostly have two languages, at least.)

Sad, ain't it?

edit: Whoops - that could be read wrong, so I'll clarify: It's not sad that you're not American - it's sad that we (Americans), as a rule, don't speak more than one language.

 

[AGGEMAM]

"Plain Danish." With beer. I like it. Too bad we can only drink virutal beer together!

(Actually I dont drink beer, except Root Beer [do you know what this is?] - it's a long story, but the short version is: got very upset - drowned my sorrows in much beer, got the flu and got sick for a week, now beer does not tase good to me. I call it Unintentional Aversion Therapy.)

The right beer at the right time, if you have it 'over there' try a Newcastle Brown Ale.

Root beer ? Is that the same as Ginger Ale ?